New Level - Knarlsbad Caverns

kiki · Post by **kiki** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 5:25 am

Some may have heard of Carlsbad Caverns, but what about the little known Knarlsbad Caverns.
Have fun sorting this one out.

KIKI807

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:41 am

Great puzzle, especially the black TP part. The second Z-bot took me several restarts. Thanks for the fun!

rescuefire · Post by **rescuefire** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:15 pm

Brilliant fun!!! Thanks to Marinus for a push in the right direction when it came to doing what I wanted to with that boulder it all fell into place nicely.

This was really great Keeks! As always seems like new stuff to me all the time....maybe I have partzheimers instead of Alzheimers?

Thanks Keeks, you've really been pushin' out some levels lately I LOVE IT!

annedanner · Post by **annedanner** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:02 pm

Wow! What a fun level to play. Very challenging. Thanks so much, Kiki!

bob roest · Post by **bob roest** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:08 pm

Again I had to keep coming back to get the set-up right and that bottie by the yellow timer was a sincere pain in the butt!

Great fun as usual, thanks Keeks!

wonderfull · Post by **wonderfull** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:43 pm

Took forever and a day to get the first part figured, and took many restarts to get the second bottie/boulder part down pat (knew what I wanted to do, but darned if I could do it) Another clever masterpiece, thanks!!

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:18 am

This was an extremely hard level, with quality like Mark's and comparable to his harder levels such as "Deranged". Many times I thought I was there, but I was not and had to re-work earlier parts - finally did.

Thanks!

Lutz · Post by **Lutz** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:51 pm

May I have some help on this one please?

I have the idea to block the TP with the ice cubes so that the boulder can destroy all the boxes. But I always am caught by the z-bot

Is it just about quick moves or am I on the wrong track?

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:55 pm

I think you're on the right track Lutz.

I also had problems with that Z-bot but finally I did it that way.

kiki · Post by **kiki** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:59 pm

Lutz wrote:I have the idea to block the TP with the ice cubes so that the boulder can destroy all the boxes. But I always am caught by the z-bot

Yes the cubes block the TP to allow the boulder to destroy the boxes on the way to the light blue button.

For the bottie move some quickness is needed.
As the bot passes going downward move up to push the top cube down then as the bot returns step right then down to avoid the bot then when its safe push the cube left thru the TP then get the lower cube and push it thru the TP then the boulder.

Lutz · Post by **Lutz** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:07 pm

Thanks, so my brains are o.k. but my old fingers need some practice

I'll keep trying

kiki · Post by **kiki** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:57 pm

This version is a bit simpler in the yellow timer room with the bot.

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:12 pm

Yes the cubes block the TP to allow the boulder to destroy the boxes on the way to the light blue button

"Cubes" in plural?

I tried it, but then I found that I still need to use one of them for the blue button, so only one cube was blocking the TP - it's enough for the returning boulder, and as for Stinky himself to cross to the bottom, he had to time it right when the Z-bot was behind that cube.

uneekrose · Post by **uneekrose** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:20 pm

Well I'm not stuck where Lutz was stuck I can do that part pretty good. How the heck do you keep from getting blocked righ there? After the boulder just went to the box and got blocked it just confused me.

I tried it several ways and I can collect the coin from the ice curve but when I go back thru the tp it pushes the box out to the right against the other coin, but if I collect that coin first the box gets pushed left against the other coin. I've even tried pushing the barrel from the bottom and from the top and get the same results.

Help please...

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:40 pm

but if I collect that coin first the box gets pushed left against the other coin

Thank God for boulders!

uneekrose · Post by **uneekrose** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:55 pm

Thank God for boulders!

God didn't put that boulder there, Kiki did and it does no good if I'm not doing it right. Sorry to be so curt. No your not...really yes, I am.

Help has been recieved, will try it again tomorrow.

kiki · Post by **kiki** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:23 am

Collect the left coin on the ice curve first.
Then push the top barrel into the TP to blow the right box.
Now your set for the cubes to go into the TP so the boulder will roll over that same TP to destroy the boxes on its way to cover the light blue TP.
That is how I do it.

uneekrose · Post by **uneekrose** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:00 am

Thanks for the help everybody. I was putting the barrels thru in the incorrect order. Got it on my first retry but forgot the coin back at the beginning and by the time I realized it Stinky had already slide over the ice curve.

But we got it next go round...thanks Kiki for another fine level.

leenallrad · Post by **leenallrad** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:11 pm

Now that I can get through the whole room (for days now) I can't keep the green gate open at the end! Just what am I missing here???

kiki · Post by **kiki** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:42 pm

Leenallrad wrote:I can't keep the green gate open at the end! Just what am I missing here???

There are three cubes for the green gate timer loop, the fourth cube is for the pink button.
first get the green timer loop activated with the right side three cubes then go and position one of the barrels next to the box below the TP then when its safe quickly push the last cube onto the pink button and step down to avoid the bottie.

PS - Don't collect that coin next to the barrels until it directs the bottie into the barrel to blow the box.

leenallrad · Post by **leenallrad** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:44 pm

I have all that stuff right, what do I use to cover the blue and the red buttons???

kiki · Post by **kiki** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:49 pm

what do I use to cover the blue and the red buttons???

See the plasma cubes and the boulder in the yellow timer area.
They are for the blue and red buttons.

leenallrad · Post by **leenallrad** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:13 pm

Still don't know what I' m not seeing here, I am using the ice blocks in the yellow/zbot/boulder room to block the black teleport for the other boulder to break the boxes and land on the blue button.

kiki · Post by **kiki** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:33 pm

I am using the ice blocks in the yellow/zbot/boulder room to block the black teleport for the other boulder to break the boxes and land on the blue button.

After you push the boulder go ahead and step thru the Black TP and push the top cube to the red button then push the lower cube into the bottom of the black TP and push it to the blue button.

leenallrad · Post by **leenallrad** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:25 pm

Thank you so much, now I can get to work on time and not lay awake wondering how to get out of the room. What fun it was! Loved it for days!!

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:58 pm

Kiki Wrote:

See the plasma cubes and the boulder in the yellow timer area.
They are for the blue and red buttons.

I guess it can be done, but why? there is already a barrel on the red button!

kiki · Post by **kiki** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:09 pm

I guess it can be done, but why? there is already a barrel on the red button!

I describe it the way I do it, Once again it looks like you found another way.

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:28 am

it looks like you found another way

1. The barrel goes on the red button already during the first time that Stinky visits that area.
2. The boulder destroys the box on the first TP (and still there).
3. One of the ice-cubes (the bottom-one) is taken out and pushed back to the right of the TP.
4. Stinky crosses to the other side of the TP by timing it just when the Z-Bot flies against to the ice-cube.
5. The boulder rolls over the boxes and onto the cyan button.
6. Both ice-cubes are taken (carefully!) out of the Z-bot's area, then one is pushed back and the other is pushed so it reaches the left side of the TP, and from there, to the blue button.

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:47 am

I did it first the intended way but now I tried it your way Amnon, and I think I did. But I think it should be:
2. The boulder destroys the box on the second TP (and still there).
For I let destroy the box below the first TP by the barrel/bot and then destroy both boxes left and right of the second TP by the barrel above the first TP. And it was pretty hard to avoid the bot in the yellow timer area

shad1027 · Post by **shad1027** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:46 am

WOW! WHEW! JEEZ! HUMPF! Enough interjections. That was an amazing level. Never thought I would get through it. Too bad there isn't money in this cause Kik, this was a million dollar level. Every step was a challenge.

New Level - Knarlsbad Caverns

New Level - Knarlsbad Caverns

Keeping the green gate open

Stuck at the end

ARGGHH!

Timing of the zbot! duh!