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I don't think it has. And even if it did, it isn't the way to do it; it causes more problems than solves them.Marinus wrote:It is to make people think better before posting, and that way to increase the quality of the posts.
That's never happened.Marinus wrote:It is to make people think better before posting, and that way to increase the quality of the posts. Also it is to avoid confusion; What's written is written, instead of being changed afterwards which can cause confusion. And it make it impossible to say something, change it, and say: "I never said that".
Then see here: http://www.pcpuzzle.com/forum/viewtopic ... 280#263280BB wrote:I don't think it has.
So, what problems does it cause?it causes more problems than solves them.
Never say "never", and certainly not without any evidence. I remember it happened pretty often that people changed things afterwards.That's never happened.
This is a forum, not a chatroom. And everyone knows that the latest post is at the bottom of the page.If you want to add something to the first post of the topic to say "Go to the bottom of the page to see some pictures." or if you said "I am online on there." but you are no longer online there then you want to delete it then you can't do that.
What? It didn't happen there.Marinus wrote:Then see here: http://www.pcpuzzle.com/forum/viewtopic ... 280#263280billy bob wrote:I don't think it has.
Posts will be worse because you can't edit them. They haven't improved.Marinus wrote:So, what problems does it cause?billy bob wrote:it causes more problems than solves them.
Yes, they edited their posts. That was either adding some things or deleted some things or both. Every time someone edits they're post they don't have to point out that they have edited it. Posts are edited for good reasons.Marinus wrote:Never say "never", and certainly not without any evidence. I remember it happened pretty often that people changed things afterwards.billy bob wrote:That's never happened.Marinus wrote:It is to make people think better before posting, and that way to increase the quality of the posts. Also it is to avoid confusion; What's written is written, instead of being changed afterwards which can cause confusion. And it make it impossible to say something, change it, and say: "I never said that".
No, I meant they say on this forum that they are online there, and the other example, I don't think you understood. I meant that if you want to edit the first post, which all those who haven't seen the topic before will read, to say that a picture of, for example, a game you have made (and therefore the topic is about the game you have made), are at the bottom of the page, then you can't.Marinus wrote:This is a forum, not a chatroom. And everyone knows that the latest post is at the bottom of the page.billy bob wrote: If you want to add something to the first post of the topic to say "Go to the bottom of the page to see some pictures." or if you said "I am online on there." but you are no longer online there then you want to delete it then you can't do that.
No idea what you mean. I just pointed out what's the reason for unable the edit option, and when you seemed to disagree I showed that Patrick said about the same.BB wrote:What? It didn't happen there.
If you make your post good at once, it doesn't need to be edited, so posts can't be worse by no-editing. However, they can be worse or confusing by editing.Posts will be worse because you can't edit them.
There's no evidence for that. Perhaps sometimes it happened that way, but sometimes not. However, if you make another post, giving an explanation, for example: "In that post I said this, but I don't mean exactly that; actually I mean this." then it will be more clear. But when they simply edit it, we'll never know what they edited, and why they edited it. Also some people may have seen the post before editing, and other people after editing, which also cause confusion.Posts are edited for good reasons.
You may ask Patrick, but I'm 99,99% sure that that's not the way he intended this forum for. However, if you want to say that you are online for example on the IRC, then it's OK in my opinion. And everyone knows that you don't stay online forever. You also can say: "I'm online now, perhaps about half an hour"No, I meant they say on this forum that they are online there,
If people who haven't see the topic before, read the first post, and they find the topic interesting, they probably will read the entire topic, or at least the last posts, so they will see the pictures. If they don't find the topic interesting at all, they probably won't like to see the pictures anyhow.I meant that if you want to edit the first post, which all those who haven't seen the topic before will read,
I think so too. But if he would like to edit the source code, perhaps it would be even better to make it that way that editing is possible, but it's also possible to see what's edited. I believe you said once that's also possible on some forums.Tyteen wrote:But that would require edit of the source code, which Patrick probably won't agree.
Well, the double posts are slightly annoying, but they're too frequent (due to not being able to edit) to merge every dp. Triple posts aren't as common but their annoyance almost makes up for it. It's just one of my pet peeves D: It doesn't bother me if someone asks me to edit something once in a while, but it got annoying since (for no reason) a cluster of people wanting mods to edit their posts happened in a short time. I'm glad to do it, but if it happens too much it gets annoying. Being a mod is fun but it's kinda hard sometimes.Marinus wrote:XPR, do you think it happens pretty much that people triple post, or very often double posts, and do you think that's a problem? If so, why? And if it happens once in a week that someone asks you to edit something, does it bother you?
I guess both of the bold parts are expressions or sayings in English, which for me as an outsider are not quite clear, but after a search, I found that they are bothering you more then other people (pet peeves). But well, they aren't as common.Triple posts aren't as common but their annoyance almost makes up for it. It's just one of my pet peeves D:
I agree and I would have the same. If I was in that situation I would say: "Then I suggest you think better next time. I'm not moderator to correct all your mistakes".but it got annoying since (for no reason) a cluster of people wanting mods to edit their posts happened in a short time.
If you want to read a topic, you also want to read the latest posts don't you? And you don't need to scroll down, you simply can click the little square after the name of the one with the latest post.Sammy Bro wrote:So when posting games, people can edit the topic post so they can add the demo/final version of it, so people don't have to scroll through the pages.
I'm not quite sure what you mean. I just wanted to say that people should think better before posting in order to make no mistakes, so they neither need to double post, nor editing their post.And Marinus, I think double-posting is quite annoying, and I want people to tell others that it was a mistake by editing the post.
Marinus wrote:If you want to read a topic, you also want to read the latest posts don't you? And you don't need to scroll down, you simply can click the little square after the name of the one with the latest post. But what if people choose the wrong page, and there is OVER 100 pages? Who would want to go through that?Sammy Bro wrote:So when posting games, people can edit the topic post so they can add the demo/final version of it, so people don't have to scroll through the pages.I'm not quite sure what you mean. I just wanted to say that people should think better before posting in order to make no mistakes, so they neither need to double post, nor editing their post. Nevermind.And Marinus, I think double-posting is quite annoying, and I want people to tell others that it was a mistake by editing the post.
If you click on that little square you go to the latest post, so you can't go to the wrong page.But what if people choose the wrong page, and there is OVER 100 pages? Who would want to go through that?
And you must do it NAOOOOO, meaaauw, woof woof.DEEMAN223344 wrote:You must add a NYOOOOOOOO option.
Of course, and it happened to me too. But not everyday, only once in a month or so. And there's no one to blame you or me for making a double post once in a month, and there's no one to blame you or me for making tow tyop's in a week.Matt wrote:It has happened to me.
hopes he doesn't think of something else to add after submitting this post
Nevermind, you don't need to double post, since I posted in the meantime. 1. I doubt anyone will bother.Marinus wrote:That's right. But I think that only happens if you've been on a holiday for 2 months in the middle of the Sahara desert where's no internet connection. And I'm quite sure, that there will be a friendly person who will post you the link, if you ask for.
But how would they know that it is at the end anyway?Marinus wrote:If you click on that little square you go to the latest post, so you can't go to the wrong page.But what if people choose the wrong page, and there is OVER 100 pages? Who would want to go through that?
No, I meant an example of people thinking about their posts better.Marinus wrote:No idea what you mean. I just pointed out what's the reason for unable the edit option, and when you seemed to disagree I showed that Patrick said about the same.BB wrote:What? It didn't happen there.
How have they ever been worse or confusing? And it's not just about making your post "good". For example, see the two previous examples I made, and here is another: you create a topic which contains a poll. Later in that topic, someone else suggests another option for the poll. But you can't add it obviously.Marinus wrote:If you make your post good at once, it doesn't need to be edited, so posts can't be worse by no-editing. However, they can be worse or confusing by editing.Posts will be worse because you can't edit them.
People edit their posts because they think the new version is better. If they aren't, which means they're trying to make their post worse, then they need to be warned or suspended.Marinus wrote:There's no evidence for that. Perhaps sometimes it happened that way, but sometimes not. However, if you make another post, giving an explanation, for example: "In that post I said this, but I don't mean exactly that; actually I mean this." then it will be more clear. But when they simply edit it, we'll never know what they edited, and why they edited it. Also some people may have seen the post before editing, and other people after editing, which also cause confusion.Posts are edited for good reasons.
I meant something like "Here is a site: (link here), I am online there!". I can't say "I'm online now, perhaps about half an hour" though, because when someone reads it after half an hour later they might think that he or she is online for half an hour "then on". And you might not know how long you are going to be online on there anyway.Marinus wrote:You may ask Patrick, but I'm 99,99% sure that that's not the way he intended this forum for. However, if you want to say that you are online for example on the IRC, then it's OK in my opinion. And everyone knows that you don't stay online forever. You also can say: "I'm online now, perhaps about half an hour"No, I meant they say on this forum that they are online there,
I completely disagree. I think there are lots of people who will download the attachment but not look at any of the posts below. Just like the people who download levels from the "Return To Wonderland Custom Levels" area but don't post comments.Marinus wrote:If people who haven't see the topic before, read the first post, and they find the topic interesting, they probably will read the entire topic, or at least the last posts, so they will see the pictures. If they don't find the topic interesting at all, they probably won't like to see the pictures anyhow.I meant that if you want to edit the first post, which all those who haven't seen the topic before will read,
Those few hours don't make much difference after those two months.1. I doubt anyone will bother. check it out
2. I'd rather not bother someone else. Why not? You're doing it all the time posting on this forum.
3. It doesn't work if no one helpful of this is online.
Basically, if someone does link you to where it is (which is improbable), then they will reply hours later.
They don't need to know. As I said before: If you want to read a topic, you want to read everything. If you don't want to read everything, but only something, you'll never know where that something is, no matter if editing is enabled or not.But how would they know that it is at the end anyway?
I didn't see that you were asking for an example. And I'm not giving an example anyhow. Just look at all the situations where people want to edit their posts. Examples enough!No, I meant an example of people thinking about their posts better.
I have explained that in one of my previous posts. The one I talked about notification emails.How have they ever been worse or confusing?
I don't know which 2 examples you're talking about.For example, see the two previous examples I made,
So you really wanted to add an option: NYOOOOO ?you create a topic which contains a poll. Later in that topic, someone else suggests another option for the poll. But you can't add it obviously.
If you would have done that, it would have been unfair toward the people who voted before you added that option. You'd better make an entirely new poll then. But well, polls are useless anyways.
I only understand the bold part, but I've no idea what you mean with the rest. About the bold part: Then they haven't thought good enough before posting, otherwise they can make a new post.People edit their posts because they think the new version is better. If they aren't, which means they're trying to make their post worse, then they need to be warned or suspended.
Quite clear what you meant. As I said before: thats not what this forum is for. Besides, if they want to see you online there, they can check it out. If they won't, they don't bother about how long you are online. Considering your IRC topic, they don't bother about it anyways.I meant something like "Here is a site: (link here), I am online there!". I can't say "I'm online now, perhaps about half an hour" though, because when someone reads it after half an hour later they might think that he or she is online for half an hour "then on". And you might not know how long you are going to be online on there anyway.
And you care about those people who download your levels, but never say anything about it?I completely disagree. I think there are lots of people who will download the attachment but not look at any of the posts below. Just like the people who download levels from the "Return To Wonderland Custom Levels" area but don't post comments.