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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 2:20 pm
by Caton
has anybody made CGI Wonderland Animation? or is there any out there?

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 2:35 pm
by garirry
No one has done so, at least to my knowledge.

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:08 pm
by Muzozavr
Alright, I'll try to make your understanding of just how much work that would be a bit less theoretical, a bit more tangible...

1. Solve the two following RTW levels: "Master of the Game" by Mark and "Double Take" by me. Add my "Deceptively Deceptive" if you feel up to the challenge.
2. Consider the mental effort that this took.
3. Realize that learning professional CGI animation takes immeasurably more mental effort, so if it's not part of your hobbies, you're not going to want to spend that much work on it.
4. Realize that even once you know the process, the amount of work is huge (if you want it to look good) and very unlikely to be done by a single person.
5. Realize that large companies are not interested in somewhat tiny communities like ours.
6. You should now understand why a CGI Wonderland animation doesn't exist.

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:10 pm
by garirry
I perfectly agree with you Muz, but let me say one thing: Kinda like how I was back in 2009-2011, I did not pay a single attention to any post pretty much. Caton apparently doesn't read the post or it goes through his head, which is why no matter how much we tell him something, he doesn't understand. I suggest you don't really bother explaining too much to him, and it's not like he's taking the action of making CGI seriously. :roll:

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:28 pm
by Muzozavr
garirry... my dream is to become a film director in the future. Explanations need to be my forte if I'm to be able to communicate my vision to anyone else. They need to be clear and concise.

And yes, I do realize how much work this will be -- considering that I don't have enough money to get even a decent-ish point-and-shoot camera... considering that I'm ADHD and hideously prone to procrastination... I kind of have a lot of problems to overcome. :lol:

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:35 pm
by garirry
Muzozavr wrote:garirry... my dream is to become a film director in the future. Explanations need to be my forte if I'm to be able to communicate my vision to anyone else. They need to be clear and concise.

And yes, I do realize how much work this will be -- considering that I don't have enough money to get even a decent-ish point-and-shoot camera... considering that I'm ADHD and hideously prone to procrastination... I kind of have a lot of problems to overcome. :lol:
No, I'm not saying that what you say is wrong. I'm just saying that I think it's better to spend your time and explain something to someone who is gonna listen, not someone who's gonna ignore all of it. If I offended you, then I apologize.

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:19 pm
by Muzozavr
I wasn't offended (sorry if it looked that way) but I think of inattentive people as of a personal acid test. It can get annoying, of course, but if I managed to explain something to an inattentive person... that means I really managed to explain something. :wink:

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 6:12 pm
by Wonderland King
Here's my attempt at an explanation:

Caton, I know you've made a lot of other games and such. So maybe you could try making a Wonderland CGI animation - see how much work it really is.

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 6:34 pm
by Caton
I would but...

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 6:36 pm
by garirry
Blender isn't the only 3D program to exist.

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 6:37 pm
by Caton
but I want to use blender for the 3d animation.

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 6:39 pm
by garirry
If Blender doesn't work and you absolutely want to use it, you have to figure out what is wrong with your computer and fix it. I might help if you need to. Meanwhile, I think you'll have to stick to another program.

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 7:25 pm
by Caton
how do I fix it?

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 7:50 pm
by Pawelec
Uninstall Blender, reinstall Python and reinstall Blender, for me it always works :wink:

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:13 pm
by Caton
didn't work.

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:15 pm
by garirry
I'll say this honestly: If you let me access your computer using a software, then I may be able to discover what is wrong with your computer and even fix it if possible.

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:19 pm
by Muzozavr
You can use TeamViewer. As far as I'm aware, it allows you to interrupt the whole thing on the other end by pressing ESC, so no matter how paranoid you are, you're always safe. A very nifty feature, I think.

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:20 pm
by garirry
Muzozavr wrote:You can use TeamViewer. As far as I'm aware, it allows you to interrupt the whole thing on the other end by pressing ESC, so no matter how paranoid you are, you're always safe. A very nifty feature, I think.
Yes, that's what I wanted to use. That immediate cancellation button is very useful though, I had once a guy from Parallels get into my computer because my virtual machine's virtual hard drive was not working and I couldn't get my data back. Thank god it worked. :lol:

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:40 pm
by Caton
so how do I fix it?

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:41 pm
by garirry
Caton wrote:so how do I fix it?
Do you have a skype or something like that? If so, PM me your username so I can try to fix it through TeamViewer.

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:43 pm
by Caton
it only says ID and password on teamviewer

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:46 pm
by garirry
Caton wrote:it only says ID and password on teamviewer
PM it to me.

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 3:34 pm
by Caton
useful tool.

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:15 pm
by tooncool64
No offense, but this should be moved to the Off Topic section. This really isn't about wonderland at all. :?

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:52 pm
by garirry
I'd say not. Still related to Wonderland in my opinion.