Tricky Puzzles

Archive of the first decade of Off Topic Posts
Locked
User avatar
Lutz
Rainbow Spirit Chaser
Posts: 5418
Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:09 pm

Post by Lutz » Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:34 am

O.k. here's the solution. I admit it's been a hard one :twisted:

6/(1-5/7) = 21

I'm off for the day so anyone may start a new puzzle :D
User avatar
mqdar
Rainbow Star
Posts: 1436
Joined: Mon May 09, 2005 10:46 pm

Post by mqdar » Fri Aug 08, 2008 5:09 am

I've got a puzzle, so may I go next? I've got one question about it though. It's more like a yes/no question puzzle, so how will I go about getting it out?
Skype wrote:[7:23:42 AM] Darx: Click here to give me an internet!
[7:23:57 AM] 'a'a: *clicks here*
Marinus
Rainbow AllStar
Posts: 4686
Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:20 pm

Post by Marinus » Fri Aug 08, 2008 5:32 am

Well, I was supposed to post a new riddle in the Y/N topic but I don't know one. So if you have one you may post it there. :D
Image
User avatar
mqdar
Rainbow Star
Posts: 1436
Joined: Mon May 09, 2005 10:46 pm

Post by mqdar » Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:24 am

Yay! Thankyou! :D :D :D :D :D :D
Skype wrote:[7:23:42 AM] Darx: Click here to give me an internet!
[7:23:57 AM] 'a'a: *clicks here*
Marinus
Rainbow AllStar
Posts: 4686
Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:20 pm

Post by Marinus » Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:43 pm

Here's an easy one, that can everyone do. 8)

A man has a swimmingpool with a square shape and on each corner a tree. After several years he wants the pool to be twice as big, but still square shapy. And he definitaly doesn't want to cut the trees. How does he do that? :D
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Last edited by Marinus on Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Image
Muzozavr
Rainbow Spirit Chaser
Posts: 5648
Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:55 pm

Post by Muzozavr » Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:03 pm

Turn the square 45 degrees (as a rhombus) and make each border larger by 1.41
(Making each border larger by 2 will result in a square that's 4 times as big)
Rest in peace, Kym. I hardly knew ya.
Rest in peace, Marinus. A bright star, you were ahead of me on my own tracks of thought. I miss you.
Marinus
Rainbow AllStar
Posts: 4686
Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:20 pm

Post by Marinus » Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:11 pm

Correct! :D :D :D

Do you know a good one? A little harder then mine and a little less hard then Lutz's one? 8) :D
Image
User avatar
Dizzy1
Rainbow SuperStar
Posts: 2118
Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:12 pm

Post by Dizzy1 » Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:15 pm

Could someone explain that one to me please? I don't know math very well and I don't see how that would work, at all! :?
Marinus
Rainbow AllStar
Posts: 4686
Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:20 pm

Post by Marinus » Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:25 pm

:D :D :D Yes, I will! :P :P :P :D :D :D
I uploaded a new attachment and that shows with the thin lines hoe the pool is gonna be. Both shapes are supposed to be squares 8)

When you draw 2 squares exactly that way and the big square with the thin line is also the shape of the drawing paper, then you can flip the 4 parts which are outside the thick line to the inside, and then those 4 together are exactly as big as the inside square. So the new square is 2 * as big as the old one, so the length of a side of the new one is square-root 2 (1.41) * as big. :D :D :D
Image
User avatar
Dizzy1
Rainbow SuperStar
Posts: 2118
Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:12 pm

Post by Dizzy1 » Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:41 pm

Oh Thanks! :D I understand by seeing the diagram, but I suppose I'll never understand the math behind it. :roll: :lol:
Muzozavr
Rainbow Spirit Chaser
Posts: 5648
Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:55 pm

Post by Muzozavr » Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:46 pm

This is one of the cleverest puzzles in Death Gate adventure game, reworded to not to make it too easy while still giving all neccesary information:

You are in dog's body (don't ask, it makes sense in context) and need to bring an antidote, to your shackled, poisoned human self. You look around the room and notice a stand of bottles right in front of a color-patterned curtain. You know this stand has the antidote, and that all the bottles are clear, but only the antidote itself is clear, the wine and the poison bottles are coloured. But: there's one sticky situation.
How will you differentiate the COLOR of the liquids when you're a DOG with a black-and-white vision?
Rest in peace, Kym. I hardly knew ya.
Rest in peace, Marinus. A bright star, you were ahead of me on my own tracks of thought. I miss you.
User avatar
speegled
Rainbow Master
Posts: 904
Joined: Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:21 am

Post by speegled » Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:29 pm

Maybe it's the lightest of the colors are white,and the rest are black,and the clear one...
TRY THIS COOL FORUM.

http://hoomdoom.forumotion.com/
Marinus
Rainbow AllStar
Posts: 4686
Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:20 pm

Post by Marinus » Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:34 pm

First I think the coloured liqiud is always darker when you look through it then the non-coloured. Beside that the coloured liqiud may have an different breaking index or barking index 8) But that's not your intended solution 8)

When you look through the red wine to the green parts of the curtain it will seem black or at least much darker. The same with the green poison and the red parts of the curtain. Through the non-coloured liqiud there will be no difference. :D
Image
Muzozavr
Rainbow Spirit Chaser
Posts: 5648
Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:55 pm

Post by Muzozavr » Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:16 pm

barking index
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yep, I couldn't tell what is impossible. The game required you to watch at the parts of the curtain that are covered by the bottles, and the one that doesn't change the colors of the pattern is the clear one.

Death Gate is actually a tricky puzzle on a tricky puzzle. Getting down a huge pit safely, dealing with your magical double (near the end) and the one where you meet Sang-Drax for the first time, and he threatens to kill-you-off-for-real.
Rest in peace, Kym. I hardly knew ya.
Rest in peace, Marinus. A bright star, you were ahead of me on my own tracks of thought. I miss you.
Marinus
Rainbow AllStar
Posts: 4686
Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:20 pm

Post by Marinus » Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:20 pm

Your uncle Peegue calls you on the phone and asks for 40 green spheres, for he's gonna make a party in the city hall of Wondertown. By coincidence you find a box where exactly 40 sphere's fit in, like the picture. At the moment you're ready to go, he calls again and asks for also one red sphere. But you have no other boxes. How do you solve this problem? :? :? 8) :D
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Image
User avatar
dlcs18
Rainbow MegaStar
Posts: 3282
Joined: Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:44 pm

Post by dlcs18 » Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:27 pm

You have to say "F*** off Peegue, I don't have any, Dammit!" :lol:
dlcs18
Marinus
Rainbow AllStar
Posts: 4686
Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:20 pm

Post by Marinus » Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:29 pm

LOL :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

No, I'll tell you a little secret. There fit 41 spheres in the box. How? 8)
Image
User avatar
Lucky-Luc
Rainbow Master
Posts: 870
Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:03 pm

Post by Lucky-Luc » Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:35 pm

... (okay, it doesn't look quite correct, but it would fit :roll: )
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Marinus
Rainbow AllStar
Posts: 4686
Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:20 pm

Post by Marinus » Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:49 pm

Correct!! :D :D :D (Too easy again :( :roll: 8) :lol: )

If someone is interested in the math formula's please let me know.

Well then it's your turn Lucas :D :D :D
Image
User avatar
speegled
Rainbow Master
Posts: 904
Joined: Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:21 am

Post by speegled » Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:00 pm

O.k. I've got one.
6/6+9-0+09-98+90X5. :twisted:
TRY THIS COOL FORUM.

http://hoomdoom.forumotion.com/
User avatar
Lucky-Luc
Rainbow Master
Posts: 870
Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:03 pm

Post by Lucky-Luc » Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:04 pm

Okay, so here's another math puzzle, probably quite easy, too:

What are the four numbers of which you can get any number between 1 and 40 only by adding or substracting? Every number may only be used once to get a result, so 1+1=2 is for example not allowed. However, you don't have to use every number for each result (which also means for example 16=16 is a valid solution).
User avatar
Lutz
Rainbow Spirit Chaser
Posts: 5418
Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:09 pm

Post by Lutz » Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:47 pm

PMed you the solution, Lucas :wink:
Marinus
Rainbow AllStar
Posts: 4686
Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:20 pm

Post by Marinus » Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:19 am

Speegled, 371 :D

Lukas, so this is almost the same as Lutz's puzzle, but 39 times harder? :shock: I had really no idea how to start :? But after a while I saw the logic in it, more thanks to the fact we may only add and substract, so at least it is not a/(b-c/d) 8)
1,3,9 and 27
:D
Image
User avatar
peegman
Rainbow Wizard
Posts: 471
Joined: Mon Dec 24, 2007 5:21 am

Post by peegman » Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:37 am

I just remembered it was in a book i read long ago
yee
User avatar
Lucky-Luc
Rainbow Master
Posts: 870
Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:03 pm

Post by Lucky-Luc » Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:58 am

Lutz and Marinus, of course both correct! :D
User avatar
peegman
Rainbow Wizard
Posts: 471
Joined: Mon Dec 24, 2007 5:21 am

Post by peegman » Sat Aug 09, 2008 11:24 am

speegled wrote:O.k. I've got one.
6/6+9-0+09-98+90X5. :twisted:
55
There's no brackets Marinus
yee
Muzozavr
Rainbow Spirit Chaser
Posts: 5648
Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:55 pm

Post by Muzozavr » Sat Aug 09, 2008 11:42 am

peegman, sorry to tell you, but math rules clearly state that "multiplication and division before substraction and addition"
So Marinus is correct on that.
Rest in peace, Kym. I hardly knew ya.
Rest in peace, Marinus. A bright star, you were ahead of me on my own tracks of thought. I miss you.
Marinus
Rainbow AllStar
Posts: 4686
Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:20 pm

Post by Marinus » Sat Aug 09, 2008 5:58 pm

This is about a little game, in Dutch called: butter, cheese and eggs, don't ask me why, :roll: and, if I'm right in English: tic tac toe. It's a 3*3 square and it's played by two players who write one by one a X or O in one of the squares. One of them uses X and the other O. A player has won if he/she has three X or O on one line, horizontal, vertical or diagonal.

Just in the situation of this riddle there are two rules:
1 If a player has a possibillity to get three on a line he/she must do that.
2 If a player has a possibillity to prevent the other player to get three on a line, he/she must do that.
Of course rule 1 is before 2.

In this situation each player has done three turns, this way:

O O .
O X .
X X .

It is quite obvious that the player who's turn it is will win. The question is, who's turn it is, and why.
Image
Muzozavr
Rainbow Spirit Chaser
Posts: 5648
Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:55 pm

Post by Muzozavr » Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:08 pm

If I'm right, then in your riddle the O player must begin first, which is against the rules. Ignoring that meddling bit, it's O's turn, since the only way a three-in-the-line can occur is if a player manages to make a double threat -- since you can only close off one at a time...
Rest in peace, Kym. I hardly knew ya.
Rest in peace, Marinus. A bright star, you were ahead of me on my own tracks of thought. I miss you.
User avatar
Lucky-Luc
Rainbow Master
Posts: 870
Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:03 pm

Post by Lucky-Luc » Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:13 pm

It's O's turn.


It's pretty logical to me, but still I find it hard to explain. I'll try anyway:

Both players threaten (I don't know if that's the correct word, but I'll use it in the explanation) to complete a line. Because of that, it's obious that the last move had to prevent a possibility; otherwise it wouldn't have been possible for one player to make a threat while another one already exists.

And after figuring out that, you only have to notice that the last move of O couldn't have prevented any line from being completed. The only line where a O prevents something like that is the second column. However, that would mean that the previous move of X would have either been R2C2 or R3C2. If that was the case, however, either of them would have already existed. Both would lead to a threat combined with R3C1, either on the third column or on one of the diagonals which O would have had to prevent.

Altogether, this means that X's last move was R3C1, where he parried the threat on the 1 column, but wasn't able to parry the one on the first row.


EDIT: D'oh, posted at the same time again! Muzo's explanation is certainly much more compact... :roll:
Locked