Yes/No-question puzzle

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:30 pm

Does matter to the story :
1 he was not thinking very well due to alcohol?
2 " " " moving " " " " "
3 other properties of the drink he drank?
4 the glass or bottle, or such?
5 the sand of the beach?
6 could it also be a swimming pool?
7 seawater (salt) or lake water? (is it water at all?)
8 the depth of the water?
9 special properties of the man?

Dizzy1 · Post by **Dizzy1** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:25 am

1. Yes, probably had a little to do with it.
2. Yes, probably had a little to do with it.
3. No
4. No
5. Not really, but more what happens to the sand on the beach, due to a natural cause.
6. No
7. Yes, it was sea water.
8. No (but something else to do with sea water...but not about the salt)
9. No

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:11 am

1 Was it wet quicksand / driftsand he sunk down in?
2 Was it dry sand blowing with the wind in his eyes or such?
3 Could it also be happened on the little beach at a little lake?

what happens to the sand on the beach, due to a natural cause.

4 Is that pretty common, or unusual?

Dizzy1 · Post by **Dizzy1** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:15 pm

1. No
2. No
3. No
4. No, it is not uncommon. As a matter of fact, it happens every day and is a natural sea water movement.

Big Hint:

At one time, he was not alone on the beach.

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:25 pm

Well I didn't read the spoiler yet but answer 4 tells a lot!

Were they playing with sand and partly burying him, and when the flood came, he drowned?

Dizzy1 · Post by **Dizzy1** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:44 pm

Marinus wrote:1. Were they playing with sand and partly burying him

1. No

2. when the flood came, he drowned?

2. Do you mean the tide? If so, yes but not because of #1.

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:06 pm

Yes I mean tide. As far as I know the tide can cause two different dangers.
a. That the water is higher then. Just in case of my previous question about being partly buried with sand
b. That there can be a strong current in the water.

1 Is it one of those two points a or b what's important? a? b? or both?

Because you told I already found out bu myself, I looked at your spoiler now, so it is important for the story there were other people there.

2 Does it also matter these people were sort of friends, or he didn't know them at all? If yes, which one?

3 Were the other people also not thinking very well, just like he did?

4 Was it in fact just a silly accident?

Again about the tide and what you said before:

what happens to the sand on the beach, due to a natural cause.

5 Something happened with the sand due to the tide? Did it flush away due to the current of the water?

6 Was he on a sort of island and when the flood-tide came (for there is also ebb-tide

) the water between him and the land became too deep?

Dizzy1 · Post by **Dizzy1** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:27 am

1.(a) Yes
1.(b) No
2. I'm not sure if he knew them, or not.

But I wouldn't exactly call them friends.
3. No
4. No
5. No, nothing really happened with the sand. Yes, the tide flushed away something.
6. No
EDIT: Nobody's guessing so here's the answer: The man was murdered by some people. They lifted a boat and set it on top of him, being a little drunk, he couldn't get out from under it, so the tide drowned him and carried the boat away. Kinda dumb, I know!

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:24 pm

I was just about to guess again, and now I see you gave the answer yet.

And I think the man must have been very drunk then, for he could've escaped the moment the boat started to float. For there would be still air inside the boat just like a diving bell with an open bottom. If you hold a glass upside-down in water, or even under water, there is still air in.

Dizzy1 · Post by **Dizzy1** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:18 pm

The boat wasn't upside-down. And the water rises slowly.....slowly enough that he would drown before the boat was carried away by the water.

Sorry I spoiled it!

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:13 pm

I remember another one from earlier days

A man travels by train from A to B. Later he goes back and when the train goes through a tunnel, he commits sucuide. Why?

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:28 pm

If it's the same riddle I know, it has to do something with time-travel. If not, I'll think more.

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:03 pm

You mean time-travelling a-la "Back to the future" (science fiction)?

No it's possible in real life

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:24 am

Revive because I still have no idea what happened to him. Was his suicide even connected to trains at all?

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:41 am

I never thought this topic would be on top again!

Muzozavr wrote:Revive because I still have no idea what happened to him. Was his suicide even connected to trains at all?

Then keep asking questions.

No actually the suicide has nothing to do with trains. It just happened when he was in the train. The way he committed suicide (knife? gun? ..... etc.) doesn't matter at all. All that matters is the reason why he committed suicide. Therefore it happened when the train was in the tunnel.

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:52 am

He was a money-hungry businessman who realised that OH NO HE IS ON THE WRONG TRAIN and will be late and all his finance machinations go down the drain, right?

Probably not, but it's funny.

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:13 am

Yes it's funny, but it's not the story.

You're always trying to know the story, by thinking out a story yourself and asking: "Is that it?" But it's the same way s a RTW level; you can't solve the whole level at once. You have to solve the smaller parts first, and if they're still too big, solve it by making smaller steps.

Remember that the most advanced computer, that can calculate much more complex calulations much more faster then any human can; the only thing it can do is just 1+1=10.

So I suggest to ask more smaller and more general questions about any little fact you know about it.

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:22 am

OK then.

Is it important that the suicide happened in that specific location, the train?

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:25 am

The train is not really important, but the tunnel is. It also could've happened in a bus in a tunnel

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:28 am

The tunnel? Hmm...
By any off-shoot random chance, was he claustrophobic? (though being afraid of enclosed spaces is a bit weird)

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:33 am

No, it has nothing to do with small room. But what is another property of a tunnel?

And there are more facts. He travelled from A to B and back. What was A, what was B, what happened there?

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:38 am

Well, darkness is the only other seemingly useful thing I can imagine for a tunnel.

At B did something bad happen?

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:50 am

Darkness is correct. And indeed it has to do with what happened at B. But that wasn't bad.

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 12:37 pm

Was the suicide intentional?

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 12:50 pm

I'm not quite sure what you mean with that question but I think, no.

He did not intend to commit suicide before the train went into the tunnel. His decision to do so, and the action itself happened both in the small while the train was in the tunnel.

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:20 pm

OK, so it's not an accident?

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 6:11 pm

No. If he was killed by an accident, I shouldn't have said, he commints suicide

He's travelling from B back to A, then he's in the darkness of the tunnel and he commits suicide

mqdar · Post by **mqdar** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:15 pm

Hmm, just looked at this thread.

So...

1. Is the man scared of the dark?
2. At location B, did anything happen related to the idea of darkness?
3. When traveling from A to B, did he go through a tunnel?
4. Was he tired of life?

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:22 pm

Good questions Darshan!

1. Is the man scared of the dark? No
2. At location B, did anything happen related to the idea of darkness? YES!!
3. When traveling from A to B, did he go through a tunnel? Yes
4. Was he tired of life? No

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:21 am

Was his eyesight good?
And is it important to the puzzle?