The Wonderland Board

cbloopy wrote:

jdl wrote:Anything new lately by anyone?

I don't know, maybe Clifford really is trying to create his own Editor or something, he seems to have disappeared for some days (weeks?) now.

Anyway, in case you're wondering, I'm still working on two things these days:
1) enhancements to the Editor
2) undocumented general commands

#1 is still at least a month away. #2 is something I've been working on the past week or so. I'm about finished with the document, and is now in the process of creating some test levels to demonstrate some of the CMDs. Probably another week away.

cbloopy wrote:[EDIT: as of May 2nd 2009, you should use MOFILevelConverter version 0.1.2.0 or higher if you want to convert levels made with the hacked Editor. You can get the latest version of MOFILevelConverter here]

So......

Well, I got fed up with the model substitution approach. It's just too much work and complications. I decided to finally attempt hacking new code (ie. programming) into the Editor. It took some work but as you can see from that glorious screenshot above, I finally got it to load new objects that uses "!ObstacleXX" for model names. They are basically all the decorative objects in the game. Yep, the Editor just took one big step closer to being a MOFI level editor!

But don't throw away MOFILevelConverter.exe just yet. It's not going away anytime soon. For the changes I made here, it's not even really new code, just copies of existing code modified to load the additional objects. In general, the kind of hacking needed to add truly new code is kinda like trying to dig to the center of the Earth with a spoon. It may be theoretically possible, but very impractical. In other words, there are still many things that will be easier to implement in MOFILevelConverter than the hacking route.

You can download the modified Editor.exe and the MOFI WOPs here:

http://www.geocities.com/cbloopy/HackedEditor.zip

(I can't attach here because it's too big. I tried MediaFire but it's broken.)

But before doing so, make sure to copy the data\models folder from MOFI/demo MOFI into WA Editor v096. The hacked Editor now expects the new MOFI model files to be present, and will not run if they aren't.

I purposely named the hacked editor with the same name of Editor.exe. While you can keep the original file, you should rename the original file to something else. Because the new MOFI WOPs uses !ObstacleXX models that the old Editor doesn't understand, the old Editor will MAV if you accidentally go to one of the new MOFI objects while browsing objects in the editor. By making my hacked version be Editor.exe, you are less likely to accidentally run the old unhacked version.

And remember that you still need MOFI demo to actually play any levels using the new MOFI models.

richmond2010 wrote:You can’t copy it from MoFI because they don’t have wop files.

Kabooms Rock wrote:Can somebody make a level exit that will lead to one place when its activated and another place when its "deactivated".

Qloof234 wrote:"It isn't a good question?" What?

It's a reasonable question even if we can't do something like that. Back when we didn't even have the so-called "POW" magic it would have been unreasonable.

Also, for the method you gave; Instead of setting both arrows to the same ID, if you give one of them ID: 1, and the other ID: 2, for instance, you can have a bit more mobility with them. Using CMD: 1 with the ID of an arrow if they're the same ID will crash the game when you walk onto it (them?).

Kabooms Rock wrote:In the editor I can't use cbloopy's upgraded wops

dlcs18 wrote:

Qloof234 wrote:"It isn't a good question?" What?

It's a reasonable question even if we can't do something like that. Back when we didn't even have the so-called "POW" magic it would have been unreasonable.

Also, for the method you gave; Instead of setting both arrows to the same ID, if you give one of them ID: 1, and the other ID: 2, for instance, you can have a bit more mobility with them. Using CMD: 1 with the ID of an arrow if they're the same ID will crash the game when you walk onto it (them?).

He said command 3 though, to toggle it.

cbloopy wrote:

cbloopy wrote:In the next day or two I'll create an adventure showing some more of the possibilities this opens up.

"Next day or two" has practically turned into a week, but here's a test adventure illustrating some fun ideas achievable by substituting one object's model for another. (Plus a few other "nonstandard" tweaks here and there.)

Highlight: gates and bridges aren't the only things that can come out of the ground/water......

[edit: added missing rainbowcoin custom texture]

mqdar wrote:

Qloof234 wrote:Hey, cbloopy, about this model adjuster...

When do you think you'll release the adjuster? I want to take a look at some... Experiments using it.

If you're not going to, could you PM me on how I should go about model switching? Thanks.

Cbloopy has explained himself that there is no model adjuster available in the editor. He said that there is an adjuster to change a model's logic. To adjust the model, you need to create a new wop file and manually adjust the bytes at the start. It isn't very hard, actually.