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New Level - Knarlsbad Caverns
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 5:25 am
by kiki
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:41 am
by Marinus
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:15 pm
by rescuefire
Brilliant fun!!! Thanks to Marinus for a push in the right direction when it came to doing what I wanted to with that boulder it all fell into place nicely.
This was really great Keeks! As always seems like new stuff to me all the time....maybe I have partzheimers instead of Alzheimers?
Thanks Keeks, you've really been pushin' out some levels lately I LOVE IT!
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:02 pm
by annedanner
Wow! What a fun level to play. Very challenging. Thanks so much, Kiki!
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:08 pm
by bob roest
Again I had to keep coming back to get the set-up right and that bottie by the yellow timer was a sincere pain in the butt!
Great fun as usual, thanks Keeks!
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:43 pm
by wonderfull
Took forever and a day to get the first part figured, and took many restarts to get the second bottie/boulder part down pat (knew what I wanted to do, but darned if I could do it) Another clever masterpiece, thanks!!
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:18 am
by Amnon
This was an extremely hard level, with quality like Mark's and comparable to his harder levels such as "Deranged". Many times I thought I was there, but I was not and had to re-work earlier parts - finally did.
Thanks!
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:51 pm
by Lutz
May I have some help on this one please?
I have the idea to block the TP with the ice cubes so that the boulder can destroy all the boxes. But I always am caught by the z-bot
Is it just about quick moves or am I on the wrong track?
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:55 pm
by Marinus
I think you're on the right track Lutz.

I also had problems with that Z-bot but finally I did it that way.
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:59 pm
by kiki
Lutz wrote:I have the idea to block the TP with the ice cubes so that the boulder can destroy all the boxes. But I always am caught by the z-bot
Yes the cubes block the TP to allow the boulder to destroy the boxes on the way to the light blue button.
For the bottie move some quickness is needed.
As the bot passes going downward move up to push the top cube down then as the bot returns step right then down to avoid the bot then when its safe push the cube left thru the TP then get the lower cube and push it thru the TP then the boulder.

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:07 pm
by Lutz
Thanks, so my brains are o.k. but my old fingers need some practice
I'll keep trying

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:57 pm
by kiki
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:12 pm
by Amnon
Yes the cubes block the TP to allow the boulder to destroy the boxes on the way to the light blue button
"Cubes" in plural?
I tried it, but then I found that I still need to use one of them for the blue button, so only one cube was blocking the TP - it's enough for the returning boulder, and as for Stinky himself to cross to the bottom, he had to time it right when the Z-bot was behind that cube.
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:20 pm
by uneekrose
Well I'm not stuck where Lutz was stuck I can do that part pretty good. How the heck do you keep from getting blocked righ there? After the boulder just went to the box and got blocked it just confused me.
I tried it several ways and I can collect the coin from the ice curve but when I go back thru the tp it pushes the box out to the right against the other coin, but if I collect that coin first the box gets pushed left against the other coin. I've even tried pushing the barrel from the bottom and from the top and get the same results.
Help please...
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:40 pm
by Amnon
but if I collect that coin first the box gets pushed left against the other coin
Thank God for boulders!
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:55 pm
by uneekrose
Thank God for boulders!
God didn't put that boulder there, Kiki did and it does no good if I'm not doing it right. Sorry to be so curt. No your not...really yes, I am.
Help has been recieved, will try it again tomorrow.
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:23 am
by kiki

Collect the left coin on the ice curve first.
Then push the top barrel into the TP to blow the right box.
Now your set for the cubes to go into the TP so the boulder will roll over that same TP to destroy the boxes on its way to cover the light blue TP.
That is how I do it.

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:00 am
by uneekrose
Thanks for the help everybody. I was putting the barrels thru in the incorrect order. Got it on my first retry but forgot the coin back at the beginning and by the time I realized it Stinky had already slide over the ice curve.
But we got it next go round...thanks Kiki for another fine level.
Keeping the green gate open
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:11 pm
by leenallrad
Now that I can get through the whole room (for days now) I can't keep the green gate open at the end! Just what am I missing here???
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:42 pm
by kiki
Leenallrad wrote:I can't keep the green gate open at the end! Just what am I missing here???
There are three cubes for the green gate timer loop, the fourth cube is for the pink button.
first get the green timer loop activated with the right side three cubes then go and position one of the barrels next to the box below the TP then when its safe quickly push the last cube onto the pink button and step down to avoid the bottie.
PS - Don't collect that coin next to the barrels until it directs the bottie into the barrel to blow the box.

Stuck at the end
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:44 pm
by leenallrad
I have all that stuff right, what do I use to cover the blue and the red buttons???
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:49 pm
by kiki
what do I use to cover the blue and the red buttons???
See the plasma cubes and the boulder in the yellow timer area.
They are for the blue and red buttons.

ARGGHH!
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:13 pm
by leenallrad
Still don't know what I' m not seeing here, I am using the ice blocks in the yellow/zbot/boulder room to block the black teleport for the other boulder to break the boxes and land on the blue button.
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:33 pm
by kiki
I am using the ice blocks in the yellow/zbot/boulder room to block the black teleport for the other boulder to break the boxes and land on the blue button.
After you push the boulder go ahead and step thru the Black TP and push the top cube to the red button then push the lower cube into the bottom of the black TP and push it to the blue button.

Timing of the zbot! duh!
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:25 pm
by leenallrad
Thank you so much, now I can get to work on time and not lay awake wondering how to get out of the room. What fun it was! Loved it for days!!
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:58 pm
by Amnon
Kiki Wrote:
See the plasma cubes and the boulder in the yellow timer area.
They are for the blue and red buttons.
I guess it can be done, but why? there is already a barrel on the red button!
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:09 pm
by kiki
I guess it can be done, but why? there is already a barrel on the red button!
I describe it the way I do it, Once again it looks like you found another way.

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:28 am
by Amnon
it looks like you found another way
1. The barrel goes on the red button already during the first time that Stinky visits that area.
2. The boulder destroys the box on the first TP (and still there).
3. One of the ice-cubes (the bottom-one) is taken out and pushed back to the right of the TP.
4. Stinky crosses to the other side of the TP by timing it just when the Z-Bot flies against to the ice-cube.
5. The boulder rolls over the boxes and onto the cyan button.
6. Both ice-cubes are taken (carefully!) out of the Z-bot's area, then one is pushed back and the other is pushed so it reaches the left side of the TP, and from there, to the blue button.
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:47 am
by Marinus
I did it first the intended way but now I tried it your way Amnon, and I think I did. But I think it should be:
2. The boulder destroys the box on the
second TP (and still there).
For I let destroy the box below the first TP by the barrel/bot and then destroy both boxes left and right of the second TP by the barrel above the first TP. And it was pretty hard to avoid the bot in the yellow timer area

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:46 am
by shad1027
WOW! WHEW! JEEZ! HUMPF! Enough interjections. That was an amazing level. Never thought I would get through it. Too bad there isn't money in this cause Kik, this was a million dollar level. Every step was a challenge.