The Wonderland Board

Can you edit the Overworld map in "Wonderland Secret Worlds"?

Nobody has found out how to crack open the .res files yet I think.

I don't think you can. Even if you can figure out how to edit the picture, the cursor selection will probably move at all the old places.

Maybe is possible to edit it(including places),but we still can't open the res file.

jozsefkoma wrote:Maybe is possible to edit it(including places),but we still can't open the res file.

What are those .res files for anyway?

For data. Graphics, music, textures, stuff.

Music is easily changeable: it's just renamed .IT files.
Textures... someone was doing stuff like blue cannons, etc, some .res files are just BMPs.
But the Overworld map... *scratches head*

It's very probable that the logic and the graphics are separated, in which case we can change it but the levels will have to remain in the same physical spots. OR the logic is somehow coded in the .res file and then we have to figure out how to work with the file at all.

Or maybe the map is hard-coded into the game and then no. Just no.

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To answer some questions, I have taken a look at the game's files with a program called "Dragon UnPACKer" and by opening up res2.dat, I have access to ALL of the game's sound effects (including stinker voices) and textures. That includes the WSW Map, story pictures, level backgrounds, monster textures, etc. Now, I can extract these things, however this program will not replace them with another file. In order to do that, you'll need some other program.

This proves that the map is just the map and the level locations and paths are hard-coded into the game.

The map is exactly like this:
[Click Here]
but in better quality, of course, and the yellow level markers are replaced with very small red dots (which are covered up in-game with the real level markers).

I am NOT going to extract these things for you guys and distribute them though, I'm just letting you know how to get access to these things if you want to mod the game for your own personal use.

What I found?!
The classic creative minecraft bin folder?
And I found inside textures for almost all mobs from 1.7
Also I found textures for sign and arrows,2 armor textures.
It should be minecraft classic because it have just a few block textures.

No sign of wonderland...

jdl already discovered something...
I will stop searching.

jdl wrote:To answer some questions, I have taken a look at the game's files with a program called "Dragon UnPACKer" and by opening up res2.dat, I have access to ALL of the game's sound effects (including stinker voices) and textures. That includes the WSW Map, story pictures, level backgrounds, monster textures, etc. Now, I can extract these things, however this program will not replace them with another file. In order to do that, you'll need some other program.

This proves that the map is just the map and the level locations and paths are hard-coded into the game.

The map is exactly like this:
[Click Here]
but in better quality, of course, and the yellow level markers are replaced with very small red dots (which are covered up in-game with the real level markers).

I am NOT going to extract these things for you guys and distribute them though, I'm just letting you know how to get access to these things if you want to mod the game for your own personal use.

This is pretty cool! Oh, and this map picture you have is from a slightly older version of WSW, so the Cloud City level positions are a bit messed up.

This is a fantastic topiic.
Thanks JDL for the DragonUnpacker link.

I just now unpacked everything, (I mean the games extractions).

I found of 6 types of media,
--> BMP, CUR, ICO, IT, JPG, WAV.

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In Wonder-Secret-Worlds,

res1.dat is the largest file,
with 48 JPGs
with 92 BMPs
with 101 WAVs

res2 = a BMP
res3.dat to res8.dat are IT music files.
res9.dat = ?? (unknown)
ldr1.dat = WAV (short clicking sound)
ldr2.dat = WAV (all coins collected sound)
ldr3.dat = WAV (Blast!10 wrote" = the teleport sound ! )
------------------------------------------------------------
In RTW,

res2.dat is the largest file,
with 115 BMPs
with 123 JPGs
with 105 WAVs

(I temporarily removed the preview pix 'cause they're taking up so much room. )

jdl wrote:... Now, I can extract these things, however this program will not replace them with another file. In order to do that, you'll need some other program.

I think that it is very possible to make a customized program that
replaces the default images with user-supplied images, and
we could 'invent' a CustomRes directory.

However, I think it would be time-consuming to share these
extended user-images with the forum, since the descriptions of
these images
will not be automatic saved into level data as indeed
LV6s already have CustomTextures, CustomBackgrounds, etc.

We will essentially be telling others to
"please remember and try it this way with my CustomRes";

How wonderful! With a CustomRes folder, we could have our very own style to a story of Classic Wonderland, let alone if we find a way to make a new map!

Adding on to VirtLands' post, ldr3.dat is the teleport sound (which is also heard whenever you start up one of the loaders). I guess we can assume that ldr is short for LoaDeR.

Speaking of loaders, has anyone else noticed that the WSW loader is labeled "RTW Loader" in the taskbar?

Blast!10 wrote:Adding on to VirtLands' post, ldr3.dat is the teleport sound (which is also heard whenever you start up one of the loaders). I guess we can assume that ldr is short for LoaDeR.

Speaking of loaders, has anyone else noticed that the WSW loader is labeled "RTW Loader" in the taskbar?

Because WSW and RTW pretty much share the same engine (RTW Deluxe) so I guess MS just forgot that bit.

Awesome job Virtlands!
It seems that WA has too many Stuff.

once we can get a program to replace the edited files into the res<n>.dat, and change levelnumbers with our own;
we can all make our own WSW HUBS!

WOO HOOOOOOOO!

http://www.atari-forum.com/wiki/index.p ... r/Depacker

You can use this link for pack/unpack stuff knowledge

ab-47 wrote:: Awesome job Virtlands!
It seems that WA has too many Stuff.

Yes, it would seem that there is too much stuff;
Only 6 of those 12 directories contain the original media.
The directories with "convert to.." or "resized to.."
are not the originals, these were added by me for possible future uses.

Guppy Star wrote:: http://www.atari-forum.com/wiki/index.p ... r/Depacker
You can use this link for pack/unpack stuff knowledge

That's an interesting collection of software, I shall look into it.

Thanks Virtlands, I'll go ahead and download this right now!

This is a great way to extract many things. GREAT

Yeah, thanks for the program!

Oops, double post!