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Posted: **Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:47 am**

Deleted-I'm letting this topic die.

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Posted: **Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:47 am**

Wow this is a really neat adventure !

But I'm stuck on a part:

How do you pas the spring spikeyball part ?

Sorry if I sound lazy but I want to start part 4 as soon as I can. (I seriously do , I'm too lazy to work on anything for now)

Posted: **Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:51 pm**

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Posted: **Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:28 pm**

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Posted: **Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:31 am**

Deleted for Wonderman's sake. Sorry it took so long for me to notice!

Posted: **Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:15 am**

DELETED FOR AWESOMENESS'S SAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

Posted: **Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:51 pm**

yot yot5 wrote:I found it much better than GCII.

You really need to stop saying that one adventure is better than another. After all of the time I wasted on GC2, I feel like I just got slapped in the face. This is why I quit making adventures.

Posted: **Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:29 pm**

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Posted: **Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:32 pm**

Wonderman109 wrote:
llarson wrote: -He's Working with the trio but releases them when Machelin and Clax are defeated.
This was clipped from a PM between llarson and I. Have a happy time guessing who 'He' is.

Not to mention "The Trio"

Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:36 am**

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Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:35 am**

Deleted for Wonderman's sake. Sorry it took so long for me to notice!

Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:38 pm**

Eh... people like you? Maybe I'll play your adventures... sometime... later...

Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:08 pm**

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Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:12 pm**

Deleted for Wonderman's sake. Sorry it took so long for me to notice!

Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:18 pm**

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Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:20 pm**

Deleted for Wonderman's sake. Sorry it took so long for me to notice!

Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:25 pm**

Wonderman109 wrote:'people that like my work'

Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:18 pm**

yot yot5 wrote:Wait, you've quit making adventures?

DO NOT DO THIS!!! You're probably feeling like I did during the Snowstorm incident, but PLEASE don't leave! You're the funniest adventure maker on the forum, and you make some of the best puzzles!

Standards have risen so much that adventure designing feels like a chore, and I'm sure lots of people can relate to that. Not to mention the Wonderland Adventures fanbase has become pretty much unpleasable in terms of custom adventures. No matter what you make, there WILL be someone who criticizes you. I understand that people are trying to help each other make a supposedly nigh-perfect adventure, but it's just not possible since people have differing opinions on what's fun and what's not. Due to all of the criticism, designing adventures feels more like writing an essay nowadays because I've been thinking "Are people going to like this?" rather than "This is FUN!"

Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:50 pm**

Well, I do agree that people are being overly-critical of perfectly good adventures.

...I was going to say more, but I didn't know what to say. Uh, everyone please stop being critical! It's not nice! Yeah.

Posted: **Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:13 am**

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Posted: **Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:43 am**

I'm stuck on the scritter part .

Posted: **Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:43 am**

Deleted for Wonderman's sake. Sorry it took so long for me to notice!

Posted: **Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:23 pm**

yot yot5 wrote:
Nobody wrote:Well, I do agree that people are being overly-critical of perfectly good adventures.
<------------Guilty.
Nobody wrote:...I was going to say more, but I didn't know what to say. Uh, everyone please stop being critical! It's not nice! Yeah.
I thought my comment about the adventure on this topic was very polite. I mentioned some bad moments, but I thought the rest of it was brilliant!

It seems that you are so encouraging towards some people that it ends up being insulting to others. You give decent criticism for say, Emerald or MNIK, and spout praise for other users. I think that's a large part of the problem.

yot yot5 wrote:BTW, I think we should stop cluttering up Wonderman's topic. Can we discuss this on the General Wonderland Adventures Editor Discussion forum?

This sort of random stuff does generally happen in people's adventure topics. If we create a new topic for this, it just gets worse. (Heck, I think I have a mini-adventure in one of Nobody's adventure topics somewhere.)

Posted: **Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:35 pm**

Deleted for Wonderman's sake. Sorry it took so long for me to notice!

Posted: **Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:28 pm**

yot yot5 wrote:
Master Wonder Mage wrote:It seems that you are so encouraging towards some people that it ends up being insulting to others. You give decent criticism for say, Emerald or MNIK, and spout praise for other users. I think that's a large part of the problem.
I give decent criticism when there's something to criticize. I spout praise whenever I think it deserves it.

So sometimes hard work doesn't deserve praise? Well, time to stop listening to you then.

Posted: **Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:28 pm**

Posted: **Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:50 pm**

So, where to begin? Personally, there are two rules that I believe should be followed. One, don't be rude. This should be pretty obvious. Examples of being rude would be saying stuff like "This adventure SUCKS!!!!" or "This adventure is sooooo much better than this other dumb adventure," or saying that you didn't like an adventure without giving any reasons. I think most people on this forum follow this rule fine. However, the second rule is causing all of these debates. It is that you should talk about a flaw as much as the flaw makes the piece of work flawed. You're probably confused, so let me give you an example. I give a video game a 9 out of 10. I would have given it a 10 if it weren't for a single flaw. When critiquing the game, I should spend around 90% of the article saying what I liked and around 10% saying what I didn't like. If it was the other way around, then the article makes it sound like I didn't enjoy the game, when I really did, just because I was focusing on the one flaw. It's also important to note that not much should be said about minor flaws. Some flaws are so minor that they shouldn't be mentioned. However, I think this rule is not being followed enough. We spend too much time critquing an adventure, and not enough time praising it. Does that mean you can't critque at all? Of course not! Heck, I think it's okay to say that you don't like an adventure, as long as you follow the two rules.

On the other hand, people responding to criticism they received should also follow the two rules. This has also caused some problems on this forum. If one person says that he/she didn't like your adventure, don't throw a hissy fit, respond to them nicely. If one person continues to say bad things about your adventures, then just ignore them. Don't start whining, or else you're just as bad as the complainer.

Finally, no one's perfect. Everyone is going to break one of those two rules every so often. I have done so before, you have done so before, everybody has done so before. But if you break the rules too often, then people will no longer listen to you.

Posted: **Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:56 am**

Deleted for Wonderman's sake. Sorry it took so long for me to notice!

Posted: **Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:49 pm**

Posted: **Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:24 pm**

yot yot5 wrote:
MyNameIsKooky wrote:So sometimes hard work doesn't deserve praise?
you say "You never praise hard work"???

Uh, no, that's not what he said at all.

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