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[POZ] rescue mission B
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:45 pm
by shinyflute
Got stuck again... Any help please

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:06 pm
by yot yot5
Use floing bubbles.

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:12 pm
by Muzozavr
yot yot5 wrote:Use floing bubbles
and save your game often.

Fixed that for you.
This is one of the most difficult and frustrating levels in the game, if you ask me. It's almost deceptively simple on paper, but pulling it off for real is another matter entirely. Good luck.
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:26 pm
by yot yot5
Muzozavr wrote:yot yot5 wrote:Use floing bubbles
and save your game often.

Yeah, I forgot that part.

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:56 pm
by MyNameIsKooky
Like pretty much everyone else, I used Floing to solve this.
Here are some things to remember...
1. Zapbots have limited range. Generally, if a Zapbot is outside of your screen view, it can't "see" you.
2. Floing bubbles block Zapbot lasers.
3. If you're within a Zapbot's range, the only thing that will stop it from shooting at you is an actual solid wall.
4. Zapbots can kill other Zapbots.
5. Save, save, save!
Good luck!

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:00 am
by Wonderland King
I know this may sound ridiculous, but I won the level with Flash. Gems make an excellent, portable shield. And I could also use Flash to move the ZapBots in the centers of the rooms to a position that was more convenient for me. In the end, there were only 3 or 4 ZapBots left.
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:13 am
by Jutomi
Wow...
I didn't even try flash, I figured using twice the power was the last thing I needed for that level.

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:58 am
by Nobody
Wonderland King wrote:I know this may sound ridiculous, but I won the level with Flash. Gems make an excellent, portable shield. And I could also use Flash to move the ZapBots in the centers of the rooms to a position that was more convenient for me. In the end, there were only 3 or 4 ZapBots left.
holy crap what that sounds incredibly inconvenient
Although actually, I guess it's just a choice between twice as many shields or better shields. That's... awesomeness actually.
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:11 am
by Wonderland King
Well, of course, I could only bring one gem; Flash won't let you "store" more than one object. But I put it several spaces to the center ZapBot in the first room, so it was ON the square path that the outer Zapbots went on. (It couldn't be further left; if it was, the center ZapBot wouldn't see me). I stood there, the center ZapBot kept trying to shoot at me, unsuccessfully through the gem, and ended up killing many other ZapBots. The rest was a bit trial and error, but I could move Zapbots or my gem; whichever I wanted. Unlike Floing bubbles, gems don't pop or disappear against your will.
So give it a try! Maybe try doing it with every magic there is!

(Although Pop will be a bit of a challenge.)
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:06 am
by Muzozavr
Wait,
Flash? Holy stinkers. You are awesome. You know that, right?
(Although Pop will be a bit of a challenge.)

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:17 pm
by StinkerSquad01
POP WRAITHS
THINK ABOUT IT
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:30 pm
by MyNameIsKooky
StinkerSquad01 wrote:POP WRAITHS
THINK ABOUT IT
I'D IMAGINE POP WRAITHS WOULD HAVE GONE EXTINCT BY NOW VIA NATURAL SELECTION!

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:47 pm
by Qloof234
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:07 pm
by MyNameIsKooky
Haha, wow! Nice find!
Well uh, assuming there's no Pop Wraiths, we can just use Popflowers.

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:18 pm
by Super Nuclear Power
Actually, Pop wraiths could have one use: popping rainbow bubbles!
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:38 pm
by benemily
Wow, just tried it with flash, originally did it with flo, sooooo much easier, straight through no multi saving required, why didn't I use this method originally it would have saved an hour!!!
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:21 pm
by Muzozavr
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:30 pm
by benemily
Flash really is easy, killed all but 2 in the first section with the placement of one gem, moved the gem, then moved the central bot to the other side and killed all but two again, this left only 3 alive (apart from the side ones which I just ignored) which I could avoid at distance, finished with a spare flash, you have got to try it to see how much easier it really is.
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:45 pm
by Wonderland King
Muzozavr wrote: You are awesome. You know that, right?
Of course I know. Why do you think I made my username "Wonderland King"?

But thanks. I'm honored to have a beta tester say that!
And to be honest, I think I discovered this trick because I was actually unable to win the level with Floing.
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:11 am
by Wonderland King
I probably should've posted this image for clarification earlier... sorry about that. But here it is!

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:34 am
by Qloof234
I... oh, wow. Good catch!

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:00 am
by Loirae
That's what I did with the floing bubble, plus when the bubble popped he killed the one inside it, too. I used 5 floings total and had no zbots left in the first room and only 2 in the second. Could have killed one more, but I decided it was enough. My guess is that a grow flower would have the same effect as the gem, but it would just expire.
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:32 am
by MyNameIsKooky
Loirae wrote:That's what I did with the floing bubble, plus when the bubble popped he killed the one inside it, too.
Yeah, I did the same thing.
Loirae wrote:My guess is that a grow flower would have the same effect as the gem, but it would just expire.
Zapbots don't shoot at you if you're hiding behind a Growflower.

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:42 am
by StinkerSquad01
I remember that showing up in that teaser trailer I think, and I thought wraiths could be any color.

The fact that grow wraiths actually work though is pretty cool.

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:57 am
by yot yot5
OH, FLASH RIGHT DUH.
I feel stupid, now.

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:02 pm
by breinin
Tried to use flash too in this, and it worked really well. Ended up with just one bot in each section. and then it was a breeze to finish the rest.

-only thought of flash after reading about it here though

Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:05 am
by llarson
Why do I hope for this in the editor. THINK ABOUT THE PUZZLES!
EDIT: Blink Wraiths.
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:51 am
by Jutomi
Thinking about it, flash and flo wraiths would all so be interesting...

Well, I suppose this is really a forum for this mission alone. Maybe this "multi-colored wraiths" thing should be in the "WA3 editor suggestions" rather than the help section on Rescue Mission B?

Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 5:05 am
by Qloof234
llarson wrote:Why do I hope for this in the editor. THINK ABOUT THE PUZZLES!
EDIT: Blink Wraiths.
I've actually already asked Patrick about this, he intends to leave it in there for the Editor.

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:01 pm
by Wonderland King
I tried it with Brr, but oddly, if a ZapBot shoots at you, it's laser will go right through a frozen ZapBot. But anyways, I have much bigger news.
I made 2 return trips from the ZapBot area to the magic area!!!!!!!!!!! The first one was easy: I trapped a Blink spell in a Floing bubble. Then I got Pow and crossed the collapsing bridges. I killed some (actually, only 1) ZapBots and then the Blink took me back to the magic area.
The second return trip took me a while to work out. I used the glitch (well, you all consider it a glitch) that lets you change direction on Brr pads after you hit a wall. Actually, I have NEVER considered it a glitch. I find it an important puzzle element and would be upset if Patrick made it impossible. My solution also involves Blinking directly onto Brr pads. What I did was I'd make some Brr pads along the way back to the ZapBots, make a Floing bubble in the way, cast a Blink spell onto a Brr pad (that would go through the Floing bubble), and step on the Brr. Then when the Floing bubble bursts, you'll be Blinked onto a Brr pad. Because you'll have Brr in your gloves, you can cast Brr spells further along the way. Then use the so-called glitch I mentioned above to slide back. It's just a lot of that. Let me know if you want to try it but my guide was too confusing, and I'll make a screenshot.
