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New Level (Adv) Tomb It May Concern *
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:20 pm
by Mark
I'm using Janet Galle's Tomb texture this time.
Have Fun!
MARK297
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:54 pm
by Amnon
What a great level!!!
A true Mark level!!!
Thanks again, Mark.
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:14 pm
by bob roest
Ditto what Amnon said.
I really liked this puzzle, these types of levels are my favourites, not killer hard but tough enough to keep you thinking. Fortunately I recently re-played some of Kiki's levels so I remembered a certain rafting move.
Fun stuff, thanks Mark!
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:30 pm
by Mark
bob roest wrote:Fortunately I recently re-played some of Kiki's levels so I remembered a certain rafting move.
I actually stumbled on that move for the first time while testing this.
I'm happy you both enjoyed this since it was born from my insomnia.
A hint to anyone experiencing difficulty:
Those two rafts are not floating on lava.

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:33 am
by annedanner
Well, now. I don't know how to begin this one. May I have the first three steps please?
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:55 am
by Amnon
May I have the first three steps please?
1.
Take prism out from the top-right area.
2.
Push boulder to the left and follow quickly all the way, tramping the prism as well on your way, so it breaks the box.
3.
When boulder arrives, push it down and stand on button.
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:48 pm
by Chip
Hi Mark
I needed a lot of restarts here to find an appropriate beginning, but after this it was pure fun to finish the level.
I especially loved to figure out the raft section and the purpose of the different buttons.
Thanks again for the challenge.
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:30 am
by Liz Mayhew
Mark - what a brilliant little level!
I actually got the first couple of moves, but then I wasn't acting fast enough to follow through properly. When I saw your hints above, I got through that part.
I'd never seen that raft move before (very clever) and didn't always time it right.
Eventually I got to the end, only to be caught out by your cannon trick!
A final run through, and voila!
Marvellous fun thanks

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:10 pm
by bob roest
Liz Mayhew wrote:I'd never seen that raft move before (very clever) and didn't always time it right.
Welcome to the new Wonderland senior's edition where, thanks to the ageing process, everything old is new again. I've been a member for awhile now.
Check out Kiki1000 on the search engine Liz.

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:53 pm
by Mark
bob roest wrote:Check out Kiki1000 on the search engine Liz.

Hey Bob,
I just looked at kiki's level and noticed he only used water tiles.
If you push an object on a raft over water it will fall into the water.
Whereas a raft on a space tile (as in mine) allows the raft to move with the object allowing your raft to take its place.
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:26 pm
by bob roest
Well, the move works in Kiki's level, the same as in this one. I did it a few times. Besides I've always found that the first time you push an object onto a raft regardless if over water or lava it will move across, it's generally the second push of the same object that pushes it off the raft, right?
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:42 pm
by annedanner
May I please join the club, too, Bob? My second raft didn't move up to take the place of the first raft. I've seen the move (or remember it) but I can't get it to work right. Sigh

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:19 pm
by bob roest
It wouldn't be a very good club if you were not a member.
The secret to the raft move is leaving your finger on the arrow key and lifting off when you get to where you want to go.
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:36 pm
by Mark
bob roest wrote:I've always found that the first time you push an object onto a raft regardless if over water or lava it will move across, it's generally the second push of the same object that pushes it off the raft, right?
You are correct, Bob.
With the exception that a first push of an object placed on a raft in the editor will always go into the water.
However, since the raft exchange requires an object to already be on a raft, it means that move would be a second push.
And as you stated, the object lands in the water which prevents the raft exchange.
In my testing, I've only seen this work on space tiles.
That particular kiki level you mention, only contains water tiles, so I don't see how it would be possible.

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:02 pm
by bob roest
Elementary my Dear Watson, in your level the object is starting on the raft, in Kiki's the object is being pushed over one raft and onto the next.
Of course you're quite correct, your move can only work on space tiles. But the stopping of the raft works the same way.
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:29 pm
by Liz Mayhew
I found the raft section in "Millennium" and of course I then remembered.
Interesting how the trick is changed by using empty space.

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:03 pm
by Mark
Liz Mayhew wrote:I found the raft section in "Millennium" and of course I then remembered.
Interesting how the trick is changed by using empty space.

Hi Liz,
Unfortunately I never played "Millennium".
I would like to see the different variation.
There's a lot of water and rafts in his level.
Which area required that particular move?
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:47 pm
by bob roest
The second one Loof's section.
Solution for "Tomb It May Concern"
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:13 pm
by Mark