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Very nice level, Mark - but why Amadeus?

Fun little level Mark.

Thanks

Annie

Amnon wrote:Very nice level, Mark - but why Amadeus?

The title and design were something Amadeus would have done. I'm happy you both liked it.

Hi Mark
A level full of surprises. The invulnerable Loof was great...
Thanks again for this little gem.

Sorry Folks,

I found a shortcut at the beginning and the end.
I just posted the revision.

Done the revised version - it required an extra move but was not that different.

Yes, the latest version is much harder now.

The Duo made it out anyway.

doublepost:

haha, this level is pretty great so far. still trying to get the last coin (behind the green gate).

glad to see another amadeus level after 7 years.

Came on to say that I finished the level, after much experimentation, and now I see there's a revised version. I didn't notice any shortcuts in the original but then again I never look for them.

Back we go.....

bob roest wrote:I didn't notice any shortcuts in the original but then again I never look for them.

Back we go.....

Hi Bob,
I found a shortcut at the beginning and Amnon discovered one near the end.
If the one you played contains a blue sphere, then you have the correct one.

I didn't notice any shortcuts in the original but then again I never look for them.

I am not looking for shortcuts either - I just try to exit with gold as soon as I can so I can get on with my busy life. If the way out happens to be a shortcut, well then it is, but I'm not deliberately looking for them (except when I'm testing Chip's levels).

Amnon wrote:

I didn't notice any shortcuts in the original but then again I never look for them.

I am not looking for shortcuts either - I just try to exit with gold as soon as I can so I can get on with my busy life. If the way out happens to be a shortcut, well then it is, but I'm not deliberately looking for them (except when I'm testing Chip's levels).

Hi Amnon,
To me a shortcut takes away the fun of creation and design.
Which means it is broken and my hard work was for nothing.
I am certain Chip has you test his levels for a similar reason.

To me a shortcut takes away the fun of creation and design.
Which means it is broken and my hard work was for nothing.
I am certain Chip has you test his levels for a similar reason.

Sure, I experienced the same with my own levels, which was very frustrating. This is why it is recommended to have all your levels tested in advance by someone other than yourself.

My point is, that it is not the fault or responsibility of those who play to make up for the oversight of developers. My aim when I play is to get it over and done with as soon as I can, having my character(s) out safely with all coins taken, then get on with all the other things I need to do, so I don't like it myself when I have to play the same level again and again after it's already been in my "SOLVED" basket.

Amnon wrote:This is why it is recommended to have all your levels tested in advance by someone other than yourself.

Sorry for your frustration, Amnon.
That was never my intention. A second pair of eyes would be helpful. It's difficult for one person to find every alternate path. It's like proofreading your writing without a spell-check. I would ask you, but I know your time is valuable and some of it is already spent testing Chips series. It's on days like these, I miss my friend, Marinus. He faithfully tested many of my contributions in the past.

I'm glad that you mentioned Marinus, Mark. I miss his comments, support and his hard, hard levels.

I'd help, but I have trouble finding even one way to solve the level.
Err - much like this one, actually.

Though, I do admit, I've not tried very hard in the wonderful world of Wonderland, today.

Hope to see what I can do on this, later...

It wasn't my intention to start a discussion about shortcuts, poor choice of words. Let me rephrase, I didn't see any shortcuts but then again I rarely do.

As to the version I'm playing, the first did not have a blue sphere. The one I have now does and a light blue button that I haven't yet found a way to cover.

edit: I'm glad you posted some help, I don't think I would have worked out all the character moves.

Thanks Mark.

bob roest wrote:the first did not have a blue sphere. The one I have now does and a light blue button that I haven't yet found a way to cover.

The light-blue button was to fix one shortcut in the original.

Here's the spoiler:

Push the blue sphere down on the blue button.
Now have both Stinky and Loof trade places.
Loof pushes the keg beside the blue sphere
Loof stands on the yellow button to open the gate.
Stinky released the chomper and steps aside.
The chomper will destroy the blue sphere.
Now roll the boulder up on the light-blue button.

just finished the level. amazing!

I become cautious when I see an Amadeus level with the "walls" background. But there were no hidden floor tiles here... just hidden boulders! But those I can handle.

This level was a delight! With all the tight spaces, it was hard to make some moves. The timing was really tricky with the immoble green scouge blasting away at me! I liked the red herring prism, it tricked me the first time or two. Very smart puzzling using both stinkers' full time and attention. Thanks for this one Mark!

EDIT: I bet you can get this one, Jutomi, since you solved "Secrets of Atlantis". I personally think that one was harder. Remember that Zbots can be helping hands!

Hmmm...

Z-bots are one thing, but...
wooden boxes are another.

I'm just plain stumped.

I actually decided to make a strange video out of one of the features, instead.

I'm glad Amadeus is back. He has been gone a long while.

I'm making okay progress, so don't rush a solution in yet.
Usually 2-Player levels are harder for me... for some reason.

Same.

Silly me, I go and make a series with over four players.

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Video Solution

Aww.....
that was beautiful, Amadeus!

However, I had to conceit defeat;
I couldn't grasp how to properly terminate the chomper.

Well, on the plus side, I did make this,
and I did make it to the box part - just with the wrong buttonage,
so it wasn't a completely white flag...

you could say that I held a white flag with many black scorch marks on it.

Thanks for the level!

That video is really funny, Jutomi!

I notice the time stays at 5:00 in the video - did you take one segment and loop it a bajillion times?

Nope!

I literally spent all that time pressing up and down.

That was a mere fraction of the time I've spent on this level.