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I give you an official welcome to the Wonderland forums, Caton.

I look forward to seeing your adventures!

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Midnight Synergy wrote:why would you not be allowed to post? You're posting already, aren't you? I don't understand.

See?

I suspect it's Toony. Post a pic if MS really said you have the right to come back.

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Caton wrote:

Midnight Synergy wrote:why would you not be allowed to post? You're posting already, aren't you? I don't understand.

See?

That's not proving anything!

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oh sorry
and, how could ms not see the post of the member said Caton=Toony?
and I'm different now.

Caton wrote:

Midnight Synergy wrote:why would you not be allowed to post? You're posting already, aren't you? I don't understand.

See?

That doesn't prove anything at all. I'm more or less certain Patrick already knows who you are. Considering all the trouble you caused and the fact that you haven't recanted at all, I doubt he'd say yes that easily.

but he said I no longer fib.

I can say the sky is green, but that doesn't mean it's true.

okay, let's just not talk about this.

Jutomi do you have a link to your adventures?
I would like to try your adventures.

and MS I have a question why do you want to all the work in the games? you deserved to have help from other members to help you with your job to make it easier.

Welcome i spose.

I know Toony has caused problems in the past - but lets face it, we didn't help that.
And this Caton-Toony thing's been in the open for some time - at least, it was to most of the people telling me to ignore him.

Though he has sent me pictures of legitimate progress,
I have already told him about the copyright issues that'd be endorsed if they were to become... public.

As for your question to Patrick... uh...
although that's for him to answer, I think he just likes doing everything.
At least, if that is the case, I can relate;
I enjoy making most of the main buildings in my faction on minecraft.

As for adventures, see my list in this topic: click me .

Also, that quote...
well, given the shear accuracy in punctuation(not that I have anything against not having that. )
shows that it's more likely a legitimate message.

Plus, it has been several months now.
I'm sure that if anything too bad happens, it'll stick by now.
But if nothing bad happens, then, yay, we've got a new member of the family.

Jesus man, just leave toony be. Has he done anything yet? No, will he do anything? I hope not. You guys need to give him a chance, and don't say anything like 'We gave him enough chances" Because maybe he has changed now. And as for the Tvtropes stuff, i think this is someone trying to frame toony, if it isn't, well, i guess im wrong. But just give him a chance please.

Koopson44 wrote:Jesus man, just leave toony be. Has he done anything yet? No, will he do anything? I hope not. You guys need to give him a chance, and don't say anything like 'We gave him enough chances" Because maybe he has changed now. And as for the Tvtropes stuff, i think this is someone trying to frame toony, if it isn't, well, i guess im wrong. But just give him a chance please.

Ban evasion is ban evasion and is unauthorized. Toony ban-evaded three times, how much can we be sure that he has the right to be here? It is most likely Toony, but until he posts a screenshot of proof that MS gave him the right to come back, he is considered guilty of NOT any bad behaviour in particular, but rather guilty of ban evasion. I'm not exactly sure what happened to the TVT pages, but it seems like I and TOONY were deleted from the spammers list.

Thanks for the link Jutomi.

M'pleasure.

Just be careful... uh....

a stagorring(I forgot how to spell it... ) amount of adventures
have a stagorringly high amount of difficulty.

I recommend trying the ones labeled easy,
unless you think you're able to solve something as wretched as Transaction.

Well... I hope you have fun.

Thanks I will.

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Emerald141 wrote:

garirry wrote:it seems like I and TOONY were deleted from the spammers list.

I did that. It wasn't because Toony had changed at all, it was because I decided that it wasn't OK to post stuff like that on the wiki about people who still had an interest in the community. Within reason, people can say what they want on the forums and Skype, but there's no need to broadcast those opinions with such formality.

Oh, I see.

I just wish you guys would give him a chance to prove himself, And on the ban evasion topic, MS said that he could come back if he changed in a few months.

Jutomi is there a way that I can connect to your minecraft world or something like that?

Koopson44 wrote:I just wish you guys would give him a chance to prove himself, And on the ban evasion topic, MS said that he could come back if he changed in a few months.

He's evaded bans multiple times now, he's sworn at other users, he committed copyright infringement with both his "Wonderland Unity" and "Cartoon" projects (Patrick may not mind that much, but still), he made a death threat towards Emerald's sister, and I have reason to believe he impersonated Patrick and other users on the VG-Resource IRC in order to stir up drama about PCPuzzle.

I've been talking with a few other users about this, and according to Emerald, there were a few messages between him and Toony. In one of them, Toony said this (I've received Emerald's permission to post this, for the record):

Caton wrote:The things that members said about me made me feel very bad. and hurt my feelings like I'm a loser. and saying only bad things about me.

He's painting himself as the victim here. The only reason things ever escalated to the level they did is because he started talking about these ambitious projects without actually proving they were genuine, and even presenting obviously faked screenshots as "proof". The reason things escalated is because when confronted with that, he turned to insulting other users and... doing exactly what he's doing here - painting himself as the victim, who's done nothing wrong and is being picked on for no reason.

He can say he's changed as much as he wants, but actions speak louder than words. So far, I'm not convinced, to be honest.

Qloof234 wrote:

Koopson44 wrote:I just wish you guys would give him a chance to prove himself, And on the ban evasion topic, MS said that he could come back if he changed in a few months.

He's evaded bans multiple times now, he's sworn at other users, he committed copyright infringement with both his "Wonderland Unity" and "Cartoon" projects (Patrick may not mind that much, but still), he made a death threat towards Emerald's sister, and I have reason to believe he impersonated Patrick and other users on the VG-Resource IRC in order to stir up drama about PCPuzzle.

I've been talking with a few other users about this, and according to Emerald, there were a few messages between him and Toony. In one of them, Toony said this (I've received Emerald's permission to post this, for the record):

Caton wrote:The things that members said about me made me feel very bad. and hurt my feelings like I'm a loser. and saying only bad things about me.

He's painting himself as the victim here. The only reason things ever escalated to the level they did is because he started talking about these ambitious projects without actually proving they were genuine, and even presenting obviously faked screenshots as "proof". The reason things escalated is because when confronted with that, he turned to insulting other users and... doing exactly what he's doing here - painting himself as the victim, who's done nothing wrong and is being picked on for no reason.

He can say he's changed as much as he wants, but actions speak louder than words. So far, I'm not convinced, to be honest.

I guess you are right. I suggest we leave this alone before it escalates. As i have said before, No fuel, no fire.

Qloof234 wrote:stuff

Agreed 100%. Also, I'm gonna mention this quick: Caton (Toony) has been PM'ing me since a little while after he registered on PCP. He even admitted he was Toony, although I didn't believe him, as I was convinced tucker27 was the ban evader.

IIRC, on Epigam, he also made 6-7 accounts or so, and he even used proxies to evade IP bans, although some of them could be fake accounts by certain users.

garirry wrote: Agreed 100%. Also, I'm gonna mention this quick: Caton (Toony) has been PM'ing me since a little while after he registered on PCP. He even admitted he was Toony, although I didn't believe him, as I was convinced tucker27 was the ban evader.

IIRC, on Epigam, he also made 6-7 accounts or so, and he even used proxies to evade IP bans, although some of them could be fake accounts by certain users.

okay tucker27 is not me.

Well, I play on a server, but it's pretty aggressive and...
well, considering the past ridicule tennis and current withholding,
I'd not want you to get into fights with those people.

Seriously, they make the Wonderland Forums' death threats look like uncommon game.

Of course, that's now; it's gotten a lot better than when MiToJu and I started 3 years ago.
Oddly enough, that's helped greatly in my logical puzzle solving and reasoning skills,
even though I think I'm still a confounded novice who gets trolled constantly by ingame monsters.
However, that is indeed the case, if you're interested.
I wouldn't have even recommended it to my friends from Ender Realms back when that was a thing, let alone the forums, though.
And other than that - er, no, not really.

oh.