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if ms made a movie

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:18 am
by Caton
how cool would it be if midnight synergy made a CGI Wonderland Movie/ Wonderland 3D Animated movie.

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:31 am
by myuacc1studios
That would be really cool. if there was one, it could win the oscars! Image

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:23 pm
by Koopson44
*sigh*

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:40 pm
by jdl
Please don't make multiple topics for basically the same idea (these "what if" posts). Instead, I would try to keep them in the same topic. There's also this one that you can post in about pretty much anything.

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 5:25 pm
by garirry
Seriously, stop. You already made a topic about what if MS had a game system, without posting anything (like a drawing), only to try and convince everyone how easy it is. Seriously, no need to do the same exact thing again.

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:39 am
by Koopson44
myuacc1studios wrote:That would be really cool. if there was one, it could win the oscars! Image
Don't encourage him please.

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:53 am
by Caton
use blender3d
it's free

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:00 am
by garirry
Caton wrote:use blender3d
it's free
Because it's free, it isn't as good as the 2-billion-$ programs the big companies pay to make their movies. Also, don't request MS to make a movie using a certain software. He does what he wants, and he most likely doesn't want to make a 3D movie about Wonderland. Plus, do you even know how much effort goes into making an animated movie?

I know I'm very annoying, but I'm just trying to give you the message.

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:17 am
by Caton
if wonderland had a movie then wonderland would even be better!

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 4:33 am
by Koopson44
Caton wrote:if wonderland had a movie then wonderland would even be better!
Thats what they said about a lot of things. Stop with these impossible ideas. There is no way that this could be done, not with a community of teens, like me, garirry, and others, kids (cough cough), adults with jobs and a life, and a one man indie game company. There is no way it could happen. Same for the console idea.

Re: if ms made a movie

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:54 am
by yot yot5
Caton wrote:how cool would it be if midnight synergy made a CGI Wonderland Movie/ Wonderland 3D Animated movie.
how cool would it be if midnight synergy became president of the united states

:|

I think you put MS on too high a pedestal. He's not a famous filmmaker; he's just one guy making games. Let's just enjoy his games and stop fantasizing about things like this, 'k?

Re: if ms made a movie

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:10 pm
by boh123321
yot yot5 wrote:I think you put MS on too high a pedestal. He's not a famous filmmaker; he's just one guy making games. Let's just enjoy his games and stop fantasizing about things like this, 'k?
Well said! :)

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:00 pm
by Caton
Not!

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:18 pm
by garirry
Caton wrote:Not!
How about you stop pretending that you're right and we are all unfairly criticizing you?

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:57 pm
by Muzozavr
Alright, guys, I'll end this.

Step 1. Live-action stinkers (guys in costumes) would look incredibly stupid. Trust me on this one.

Step 2. Puppets would look even worse, unless it's something quick and silly. But I'm guessing you want something cool and epic, right?

Step 3. This leaves animation as the only possible route.

Step 4. "Hand-drawn" animation that looks good is incredibly time/effort-consuming. Out of the people I know on the forum, NO ONE has enough skills to do this, and even if someone DOES have the skills, it would take YEARS.

Step 5. Bad-looking Flash animation is possible and I could provide a somewhat artificial synth-like soundtrack. At least one (very silly) script exists on the forum, but the actual animation attempt never really got anywhere. But again, you want something cool and epic, right? Bad-looking Flash animation isn't epic.

Step 6. That leaves CG (aka 3D modeling) animation as the only route.

Step 7. Read "Blender 3D: Noob to Pro" in order to realize just how complicated the world of CG animation really is. Read and despair.

Step 8. Realize that, again, no one on the forum has the expertise or the will to do this, MS included. There are some wonderful people who have done static 3D models for use in RTW (popo had created some fantastic models, I believe) but they're static models. Animation takes so much MORE knowledge and effort -- and that's before you can know if the result is any good. MS might have enough persistence to be able to accomplish this, but they'd rather create a new GAME.

Step 9. Understand that the only person(s) who is likely to have enough knowledge is the CG artist(s) who have designed the in-game graphics, especially those in the Adventures games. However, doing some animation cycles and a bunch of (again) static models is NOT the same as doing an entire animated movie. These CG artists are a small team and they are not going to create an animated film just because one random person felt like it.

Step 10. That leaves YOU and you have already abandoned at least one project before it really got off the ground. (the Sonic one) If you still want to try and maybe accomplish this, I sincerely wish you good luck. If you provide a decently lengthy sample of actual animation (to prove you're serious) I can even (as I've said before) try to provide a synth-like soundtrack. No sample = no soundtrack, because I myself know how easy it is to abandon a project and I don't want to be composing music for something that will never appear. I do have other things to do.

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:18 pm
by garirry
Thank you based Muzozavr.

Derpup Comedy

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:24 pm
by Jutomi
But it'd be so cute to have a poorly made costume on a guy holding
poorly made puppets holding poorly made drawings of stinkers...

:lol:

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:31 pm
by myuacc1studios
Muzozavr wrote:Alright, guys, I'll end this.

Step 1. Live-action stinkers (guys in costumes) would look incredibly stupid. Trust me on this one.

Step 2. Puppets would look even worse, unless it's something quick and silly. But I'm guessing you want something cool and epic, right?

Step 3. This leaves animation as the only possible route.

Step 4. "Hand-drawn" animation that looks good is incredibly time/effort-consuming. Out of the people I know on the forum, NO ONE has enough skills to do this, and even if someone DOES have the skills, it would take YEARS.

Step 5. Bad-looking Flash animation is possible and I could provide a somewhat artificial synth-like soundtrack. At least one (very silly) script exists on the forum, but the actual animation attempt never really got anywhere. But again, you want something cool and epic, right? Bad-looking Flash animation isn't epic.

Step 6. That leaves CG (aka 3D modeling) animation as the only route.

Step 7. Read "Blender 3D: Noob to Pro" in order to realize just how complicated the world of CG animation really is. Read and despair.

Step 8. Realize that, again, no one on the forum has the expertise or the will to do this, MS included. There are some wonderful people who have done static 3D models for use in RTW (popo had created some fantastic models, I believe) but they're static models. Animation takes so much MORE knowledge and effort -- and that's before you can know if the result is any good. MS might have enough persistence to be able to accomplish this, but they'd rather create a new GAME.

Step 9. Understand that the only person(s) who is likely to have enough knowledge is the CG artist(s) who have designed the in-game graphics, especially those in the Adventures games. However, doing some animation cycles and a bunch of (again) static models is NOT the same as doing an entire animated movie. These CG artists are a small team and they are not going to create an animated film just because one random person felt like it.

Step 10. That leaves YOU and you have already abandoned at least one project before it really got off the ground. (the Sonic one) If you still want to try and maybe accomplish this, I sincerely wish you good luck. If you provide a decently lengthy sample of actual animation (to prove you're serious) I can even (as I've said before) try to provide a synth-like soundtrack. No sample = no soundtrack, because I myself know how easy it is to abandon a project and I don't want to be composing music for something that will never appear. I do have other things to do.
Step 11. No fart jokes.

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:16 am
by garirry
Guys, don't argue please. :(

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:40 am
by Muzozavr
garirry wrote:Guys, don't argue please. :(
Where do you see arguing? Jutomi was just having fun (and yes, it might have been cute)

As for myuacc1studios, it took me a few tries to understand what he means... the characters ARE called stinkers, after all. :wink:

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:45 am
by garirry
No, it's just that you said you wanted to end all this, but Jutomi and myuacc just said random stuff that I petsonally don't find funny.

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:11 am
by samuelthx
I love you Muzo 😘
Also garirry, you don't have to be so uptight. I think there's nothing wrong if Caton chooses to pursue a project that's highly unlikely to succeed. ;)

as for you Myuacc you stink :o

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:22 am
by myuacc1studios
samuelthx wrote:as for you Myuacc you stink :o
Image
That was a joke, right? =/

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:33 am
by samuelthx
your .gifs stink too.

Nah I just took a page out of your book. ;)

Re: Derpup Comedy

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:14 am
by Koopson44
Jutomi wrote:But it'd be so cute to have a poorly made costume on a guy holding
poorly made puppets holding poorly made drawings of stinkers...

:lol:
This is why we are friends. That and you make good chicken tenders.

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:39 am
by boh123321