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Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:59 pm**

I came to the idea of archiving every Wonderland game old versions, just for fun. I know there are DEV Builds and Betas and I actually have some of them, But I am curious if we can get them all. Here's the info I have.

Update: I am no longer updating the list here, Instead check the spreadsheet - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... ISLVBVG0AS

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:37 pm**

nasko222 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:59 pm I came to the idea of archiving every Wonderland game old versions, just for fun. I know there are DEV Builds and Betas and I actually have some of them, But I am curious if we can get them all. Here's the info I have.

Wonderland:

Original Prototype - archived
New Prototype - archived
StinkyTest - archived
v1.00 - No information
v1.01 - No information
v1.02 - No information
v1.03 - No information
v1.04 - screenshot by samuel having v1.04 demo build
v1.05 - No information
v1.06 - No information
v1.07 - No information
v1.08 - screenshot by samuel
v1.09 - screenshot by samuel
v1.10 - No information
v1.11 - No information
v1.12 - screenshot by samuel having v1.12, v1.12 demo and "v1.12 Stinky and Loof im wunderland"
v1.13 - No information
v1.14 - screenshot by samuel having both v1.14 and v1.14 demo
v1.15 - screenshot by samuel having v1.15, v1.15 demo and "v1.15 demo variant probs"
v1.16 - screenshot by samuel having v1.16, v1.16 demo and v1.16 demo extensor (claiming its really fun)
v1.17 - Latest version, archived

Wonderland Secret Worlds:
v1.00 - Latest version, archived

Krabby Quest:
v1.00 Shockwave - archived
v1.00 Big Fish Games - afaik Garirry has it

Return to Wonderland:
v1.00 - No information
v1.01 - screenshot by samuel
v2.00 - screenshot by samuel claiming it's a dev build
v2.01 - No information
v2.02 - screenshot by samuel claiming it's beta
v2.03 - screenshot by samuel
v2.04 - No information
v2.05 - No information
v2.06 - archived
v3.00 - No information
v3.01 - archived (samuel posted an image having v3.01 clean)

Wonderland Adventures:

WA Early Build - archived
WA Prototype 1 - archived
WA Prototype 2 - archived
WA Prototype 3 - archived
WA Prototype 4 - archived
WA Prototype 5 - archived
v1.00 - As far as i know Billy Bob has it (It doesn't have discussion board button, and you can blink inside pillars, he does it in speedrun)
v1.01 - No information
v1.02 - No information
v1.03 - No information
v1.04 - No information
v1.05 - No information
v1.06 - Latest, archived

WA Mysteries of Fire Island:

Possible MOFI Betas, (Post by MS asking for beta testing in 2008?)
v1.00 - No information
v1.01 - No information
v1.02 - From stock installation, archived
v1.03 - No information
v1.04 - Fixes nvidia crash, archived

WA Planet of The ZBots:

WA3 Beta1 - No information (few screenshots for old moobot and zapbot model, and other small stuff, could be early than that)
WA3 Beta2 - Video by Kyuu that's hidden in youtube now, and I dont think i have permission to send it here.
v1.00 - archived
v1.01 - Fixes win10 lag, doesnt fix dotween bug, archived
v1.02 - Fixes dotween bug too, archived

WA Editors:

WA Editor v0.80 - archived
WA Editor v0.95 - archived
WA Editor v0.96 - archived
WA Editor v1.00 - archived
WA Editor v1.01 - archived
WA Editor v1.10 - archived
Unofficial MOFI Editor - archived (with editor tools by jafo)
Unofficial POTZ Editor - I remember having it in 2015, But the links are dead, I think it's lost...
WA Editor v3.00 - archived
WA Editor v3.01 - archived

If anyone got any of these versions, lets team up and archive all of them?

There was no Wonderland Adventures Beta? Well, i guess it explains how broken the game is. That doesn't mean it's a bad game though. And i know for a fact that there was a beta version of WSW.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:38 pm**

Thats all info i have. There could be, I don't know. I will update that post with new info I find. There are like 5 WA prototypes and i have all of them, IDK if there are more.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:44 pm**

nasko222 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:38 pm Thats all info i have. There could be, I don't know. I will update that post with new info I find. There are like 5 WA prototypes and i have all of them, IDK if there are more.

There are two reasons why i know that there was a WSW beta version. The first is that the credits list of WSW shows that there were ten level designers and eleven beta testers. The second is because it is mentioned here. http://www.pcpuzzle.com/forum/viewtopic ... ion#p25959

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:04 pm**

I still have both Beta 1 and Beta 2 for POTZ as well as MOFI Beta 1 (I don't remember how many there were for MOFI).
I can't give any of them out though for obvious reasons. Besides, they were locked to each tester's specific PC hardware and are now expired anyway.
What I do have for you are two videos I recorded during beta testing for POTZ:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAIrbacYlpM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2hJ38SmU1k

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:27 pm**

nasko222 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:59 pm I came to the idea of archiving every Wonderland game old versions, just for fun. I know there are DEV Builds and Betas and I actually have some of them, But I am curious if we can get them all. Here's the info I have.

Wonderland:

Original Prototype - archived
New Prototype - archived
StinkyTest - archived
v1.00 - No information
v1.01 - No information
v1.02 - No information
v1.03 - No information
v1.04 - screenshot by samuel having v1.04 demo build
v1.05 - No information
v1.06 - No information
v1.07 - No information
v1.08 - screenshot by samuel
v1.09 - screenshot by samuel
v1.10 - No information
v1.11 - No information
v1.12 - screenshot by samuel having v1.12, v1.12 demo and "v1.12 Stinky and Loof im wunderland"
v1.13 - No information
v1.14 - screenshot by samuel having both v1.14 and v1.14 demo
v1.15 - screenshot by samuel having v1.15, v1.15 demo and "v1.15 demo variant probs"
v1.16 - screenshot by samuel having v1.16, v1.16 demo and v1.16 demo extensor (claiming its really fun)
v1.17 - Latest version, archived

Wonderland Secret Worlds:
v1.00 - Latest version, archived

Krabby Quest:
v1.00 Shockwave - archived
v1.00 Big Fish Games - afaik Garirry has it

Return to Wonderland:
v1.00 - No information
v1.01 - screenshot by samuel
v2.00 - screenshot by samuel claiming it's a dev build
v2.01 - No information
v2.02 - screenshot by samuel claiming it's beta
v2.03 - screenshot by samuel
v2.04 - No information
v2.05 - No information
v2.06 - archived
v3.00 - No information
v3.01 - archived (samuel posted an image having v3.01 clean)

Wonderland Adventures:

WA Early Build - archived
WA Prototype 1 - archived
WA Prototype 2 - archived
WA Prototype 3 - archived
WA Prototype 4 - archived
WA Prototype 5 - archived
v1.00 - As far as i know Billy Bob has it (It doesn't have discussion board button, and you can blink inside pillars, he does it in speedrun)
v1.01 - No information
v1.02 - No information
v1.03 - No information
v1.04 - No information
v1.05 - No information
v1.06 - Latest, archived

WA Mysteries of Fire Island:

Possible MOFI Betas, (Post by MS asking for beta testing in 2008?)
v1.00 - No information
v1.01 - No information
v1.02 - From stock installation, archived
v1.03 - No information
v1.04 - Fixes nvidia crash, archived

WA Planet of The ZBots:

WA3 Beta1 - No information (few screenshots for old moobot and zapbot model, and other small stuff, could be early than that)
WA3 Beta2 - Video by Kyuu that's hidden in youtube now, and I dont think i have permission to send it here.
v1.00 - archived
v1.01 - Fixes win10 lag, doesnt fix dotween bug, archived
v1.02 - Fixes dotween bug too, archived

WA Editors:

WA Editor v0.80 - archived
WA Editor v0.95 - archived
WA Editor v0.96 - archived
WA Editor v1.00 - archived
WA Editor v1.01 - archived
WA Editor v1.10 - archived
Unofficial MOFI Editor - archived (with editor tools by jafo)
Unofficial POTZ Editor - I remember having it in 2015, But the links are dead, I think it's lost...
WA Editor v3.00 - archived
WA Editor v3.01 - archived

If anyone got any of these versions, lets team up and archive all of them?

To add to this list
Stinky and Loof in Wonderland:

v.0.75
v.0.80
v.0.85
v.0.90
v.0.91
v.0.95
v.0.96
v.0.97
v.1.00
v.1.01
v.1.02
v.1.03
v.1.04
v.1.06
v.1.061
v.1.062
v.1.07
v.1.08

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:43 pm**

I still have both Beta 1 and Beta 2 for POTZ as well as MOFI Beta 1 (I don't remember how many there were for MOFI).
I can't give any of them out though for obvious reasons. Besides, they were locked to each tester's specific PC hardware and are now expired anyway.
What I do have for you are two videos I recorded during beta testing for POTZ:

The lockers can easily be removed, but besides that, If you can't give them, Could you at least run a diff check (I can explain how if you agree) So I can know the differences between them and POTZ 1.00.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:48 pm**

nasko222 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:43 pm
I still have both Beta 1 and Beta 2 for POTZ as well as MOFI Beta 1 (I don't remember how many there were for MOFI).
I can't give any of them out though for obvious reasons. Besides, they were locked to each tester's specific PC hardware and are now expired anyway.
What I do have for you are two videos I recorded during beta testing for POTZ:
The lockers can easily be removed, but besides that, If you can't give them, Could you at least run a diff check (I can explain how if you agree) So I can know the differences between them and POTZ 1.00.

All I know myself was that the final level was originally titled "Escape Plan", the Spy-Eye was not allowed on Uo, and the music on Uo was changed twice. I also heard that "Escape from Jaava" was not in Beta 1.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:52 pm**

Still. If he agrees, We can run a diff check, just to archive the information at least.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:54 pm**

nasko222 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:52 pm Still. If he agrees, We can run a diff check, just to archive the information at least.

There might be legal obstacles to that, but I'm not a lawyer. Anyways, like i posted, there have been many versions of Stinky and Loof in Wonderland. I'm not sure if that interests you, though.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:56 pm**

There might be legal obstacles to that, but I'm not a lawyer. Anyways, like i posted, there have been many versions of Stinky and Loof in Wonderland. I'm not sure if that interests you, though.

They can still run it at their computer, and just tell me whats different.

I messaged you on discord about Stinky and Loof in Wonderland

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:07 pm**

nasko222 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:43 pm The lockers can easily be removed, but besides that, If you can't give them, Could you at least run a diff check (I can explain how if you agree) So I can know the differences between them and POTZ 1.00.

Sure, I can try. I'll need an explanation of how to do that though.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:09 pm**

Do you have Discord? Or you want me to explain it here.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:13 pm**

nasko222 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:09 pm Do you have Discord? Or you want me to explain it here.

I don't use Discord. Feel free to explain here or via PM if you want.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:44 pm**

I sent instructions on PM. Also I found few more versions, Updating the archive up.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:45 pm**

RTW v1.01 - archived thanks to HumanGamer
WA1 v1.00 - archived thanks to HumanGamer
WA1 v1.04 - Archived thanks to me, found it on MS's update server

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:07 pm**

Update:

TOW v1.08 v1.09 v1.12 v1.14 v1.15 and v1.16 are found on MS's update server

RTW v3.00 is also found on MS's update server

Posted: **Wed Apr 27, 2022 8:45 am**

WA Beta Testers are under NDA. Please do not encourage people to break contracts.

Posted: **Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:03 am**

WA MOFI v1.00 WAS FOUND thanks to StinkyFTW

Posted: **Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:03 am**

WA Beta Testers are under NDA. Please do not encourage people to break contracts.

I didn't *encourage*

Posted: **Thu Apr 28, 2022 4:10 pm**

I am no longer updating the list here. Instead, check the spreadsheet -> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... ISLVBVG0AS

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:02 pm**

Are the NDAs even valid anymore? It's been ten years

Posted: **Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:33 pm**

there was 4 day long battle royale debate between TWD and Epicord whether the NDAs are valid or not. No one got answer TBH

Posted: **Sun May 01, 2022 3:58 am**

nasko222 wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:33 pm there was 4 day long battle royale debate between TWD and Epicord whether the NDAs are valid or not. No one got answer TBH

Posted: **Mon May 02, 2022 3:54 am**

If it was a fully legal NDA, then yes, it would still be binding, however...

On the forums themselves, go to Patrick's Post seeking testers for WA 3. You'll find that he asked the testers to NEVER release the beta(s) they were given.

So while it's not a real NDA, Patrick and these people have had trust in one another for close to, if not over 10 years now. I heavily doubt someone will throw that away.

At the time of writing, the archive group is pending a response from Patrick for all the W.A 1, 2, and 3 Betas that weren't publicly released.

Posted: **Mon May 16, 2022 11:15 am**

Update: Patrick released the betas from NDA, and we got MOFI Beta1 and both WA3 betas archived from JDL

with that said, The archive signups are now open, If you want to enter wonderarchive, it is recommended that you have Discord account, and PM me here on the forums the following

Your discord username and tag (If you dont have, leave blank)

Your Name

Why you want to join the archive?

Do you agree to not distribute any archived media out of WonderArchive?

Which Midnight Synergy games have you purchased?

Could you help us with some of the missing entries?

With signing up, you agree to the following terms:

In WonderArchive you're going to see only versions that aren't possible to get by just buying the games from Midnight Synergy. These versions are most likely lost in time. Some of the versions have a Time/PC lock, and there will be patches with "skiplocker" to unlock them for you.

Editor versions were always publicly available on Midnight Synergy's website, so these will be presented in its installer form.

Full versions won't be shared, Instead we provide downgrade patches from the latest version, to the particular archived version. Downgrade patches are (probably) only compatible with Midnight Synergy's version of the games. (Not reseller ones)

Versions that can be found on the website of Midnight Synergy (like latest demo builds) also won't be shared here (With the exception of old demos or variant probs, which will be presented in installer form)

All the content thats archived in WonderArchive is owned by Midnight Synergy.

WonderArchive 2023

Posted: **Mon May 23, 2022 4:34 pm**

Just adding my two cents and confirming that the archivers have my blessing to post betas and other previous versions.

I can potentially do some digging to see if I can add stuff (I'm going to add the v.80 levels to the archive soon), but as those of you who have interacted with me in the past years know, I'm moving at a snails' pace these days. Expect the next post from me in 2-3 years haha!

Posted: **Mon May 23, 2022 4:39 pm**

Thanks for approving the project Patrick.

I hope one day we will have all Wonderland games versions.

I still have weird questions, like. Did Wonderland v1.01, v1.02, v1.03, v1.05 , numbers like that existed?

Or about the music in RTW

Or about the private review copy in MOFI

But I wont bother you right now. I know you're a busy person!

And thanks for adding me! Have a great rest of the day

Posted: **Mon May 23, 2022 10:17 pm**

Thank you patrick!

thanks for adding me

Posted: **Tue Jun 07, 2022 8:49 pm**

Has anyone ever seen Wonderland v1.00 Full or Demo. This is one of the most mysterious ones on the list. The only thing that proves it's existance is the changelog saying its initial release. The next update v1.04 is a "Demo only" update meaning v1.00 demo also existed?.... I was curious if anyone remembers/has memories of seeing/playing Wonderland v1.00 It's the first ever release of a wonderland game, its iconic

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