New Level (Adv) - Save Qookie from the giants

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Sun May 13, 2007 2:27 pm

After a long pause, finally I had the inspiration for my seventh level (AMNON07).

Enjoy!

Liz Mayhew · Post by **Liz Mayhew** » Mon May 14, 2007 11:20 am

I wonder what inspired you Amnon?

Must be a demon from the Dungeon Dimension.

OK, so you've made 7 levels. This is my score.

AMNON : 7 --------- LIZ : 0

This one is totally impenetrable to me - no surprise there.

Thanks for giving us this one.

I'll be interested to find out how to do it one day.

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Mon May 14, 2007 11:27 am

It's a bit early for hints - tell me where you are stuck and I'll send you a PM.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Fri May 18, 2007 4:23 am

Amnon, you are more clever than I am.

I'm completely stumped and totally baffled.
My hat is off to you... and so is my head!

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Fri May 18, 2007 5:15 am

It seems that this level is too difficult for most people: has anyone been able to complete it yet?

Here is a hint: You need to destroy objects in order to get the generators pumping.

Liz Mayhew · Post by **Liz Mayhew** » Fri May 18, 2007 6:22 am

So far I've managed to get one barrel beside the one in the blue gate in the hope of somehow destroying both. Tried pushing the cannon here and there. Tried pushing it after a shot at the reflector in the wall.

Amnon - it's just too obscure for most of us.

I'd really love to hear from anyone out there who doesn't post but who has solved this level. Come on and boast about it!!!

kiki · Post by **kiki** » Fri May 18, 2007 6:25 am

I'm afraid I'm in the same boat as Liz Amnon, This is beyond me for the moment.

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Fri May 18, 2007 7:03 am

Liz and Kiki,

Here is how to destroy the barrels: Use the linked blue spheres!

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Sun May 20, 2007 11:52 am

Has anyone made any progress so far?

Here is another hint: In order to bring both blue spheres inside the main section, do not destroy the little bridge near the red ball.

kiki · Post by **kiki** » Sun May 20, 2007 5:00 pm

I'm still stumped Amnon

Highlight below-

I can get the blue spheres into the main section, But! One barrel is inside a gate and the other is on a break tile, I can push the barrel on the break tile into the yellow TP but it explodes. I can't get by the angry red dude to push it from the right.

I think I'm suppose to push a barrel next to the other one then roll a sphere into it and maybe this gets a gen going or something like that.

Maybe another hint please.

I can't fathom how you came up with this stinker

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Sun May 20, 2007 5:54 pm

Kiki: It is possible to push the barrel next to the other one - for that you need to get between the two TP's, then there is a quick move while the ice cube protects you from the angry red dude.

Lillie · Post by **Lillie** » Sun May 20, 2007 7:50 pm

Sorry Amnon - I haven't got a clooooo what to dooooo!

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Mon May 21, 2007 12:17 am

Lillie, here are the hints so far, please let me know how far you got: you need to destroy objects in order to start the generators pumping - first you must destroy the barrels, once you do so the rest is much easier. Push the barrel near the TP next to the barrel that is stuck in a gate, then manouvre the linked blue spheres to explode it. Getting to push the barrel near the TP is not easy - you must get to the spot between the two TP's, just above the yellow TP, then move quickly while the ice cube is protecting Stinky from the angry red dude. When you manouvre the blue spheres, do not step on the bridge near the red sphere: leave that bridge and the red sphere intact until you explode the barrels.

kiki · Post by **kiki** » Mon May 21, 2007 12:47 am

Success! I finally got er done, I used a blue sphere to block the angry red dude but was still able to get it out after I got the barrel into position. I used the cannon as a stopper for the other sphere to lead its counter part around.
I did use the cube as a stopper too.
I loved the method for getting Qookie out of her trap, Brilliant!
Ace challenge Amnon, I feel a great sense of achievement.

Liz Mayhew · Post by **Liz Mayhew** » Mon May 21, 2007 6:34 am

Well done Keeks - you're an ace level solver!

I was also using a blue sphere to protect myself from the red dude, but then I couldn't get it out again.
Still trying (on and off)

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Mon May 21, 2007 12:08 pm

Well done Kiki!

I am glad that you made it.
Actually you did it slightly different than I intended - you could do without the ice block as a stopper, but that's a nice variation! The main thing is that Qookie got home safely...

bob roest · Post by **bob roest** » Sat May 26, 2007 7:04 pm

What an amazing puzzle this was!

I had to pick up on your hint on how to destroy the barrel in the gate

I used one red sphere for that and the other red one to destroy the bottom line of wood boxes so Qookie could finally get free. Like Kiki, I used the blue spheres to block the red dude on the bottom right.

Lots of fun to work out, big thanks Amnon!

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Sun May 27, 2007 12:28 am

Bob, well done!

Actually, you did it in a different way than I intended and missed the spectacular ending.

My hat off to you because I spent many hours trying to make sure that there are no loopholes - and you found one.

Your idea was impressive, but I took it one step further and managed to complete this level without destroying the barrels at all, in fact without touching any barrel!!

bob roest · Post by **bob roest** » Sun May 27, 2007 4:50 am

Amnon wrote:I took it one step further and managed to complete this level without destroying the barrels at all, in fact without touching any barrel!!

Yeah...so can I

PM on the way.

rmalloy · Post by **rmalloy** » Sun May 27, 2007 5:04 am

i enjoyed this level. i was able to finish it apparently without doing what you describe in the hint. so i'm intrigued...what are you talking about with the ice cube? i see no way to use the ice cube to block the red guy's shots and instead i had to use a blue ball. from my perspective, it is impossible to move that ice cube anywhere except through the grey transporter.

the best thing about this level was the red herrings. very good job.

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Sun May 27, 2007 7:49 am

Rmalloy:

My original intention was that the ice cube is going to block the fire from the bad red dude. It can only block the fire for a little while, until the spikes destroy it, so the idea is to push the ice block straight as the spikes come down, then quickly enter and exit the TP 4 times.

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Sun May 27, 2007 9:25 am

Bob Roest the genius found some interesting

loopholes:

This revision should prevent them, so you will need to make it in the intended way.

rmalloy · Post by **rmalloy** » Sun May 27, 2007 2:10 pm

Amnon wrote:Rmalloy:

My original intention was that the ice cube is going to block the fire from the bad red dude. It can only block the fire for a little while, until the spikes destroy it, so the idea is to push the ice block straight as the spikes come down, then quickly enter and exit the TP 4 times.

Well I am befuddled by that. For one thing, I don't think there is any issue from the red dude if you could move the ice block straight down. That's because with the ice block removed from its original location, you could just enter the yellow transporter from above without being killed.

For a second thing, I don't see any way to move the ice block to the spikes unless the red dude is already blocked by a blue ball. This is because it is not possible to move into the yellow transporter on the right side until the red dude is blocked. There is simply not enough time to move into the spikes and across the ice without being killed (and if you could do this it would defeat the purpose of having the ice block there). Without being able to move into the yellow transporter, there is no way to push the ice block into the grey transporter...? And even if I could do all this I don't see how to move the ice block in front of the red dude.

And if you could move the ice cube to the spikes, I don't see why you wouldn't move it further such that it doesn't get killed by the spikes. And if you for some reason you had to move the ice cube to the spikes, I don't see how you'd get the coin at the bottom without moving the blue ball to block the red guy.

So I wouldn't harp on it, except I'm truly puzzled.

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Sun May 27, 2007 2:26 pm

Good questions, Rmalloy.

My intention was to first push the barrel and only later cover the red dude with the second blue ball (and take the coins). The trick is to pass from the top, through the gray TP, then standing between the two TP's, time it just right after the spikes, so you have enough time to enter the yellow TP 4 times. Crossing the gray TP without going through it is indeed a trick - but not too difficult.

The reason you cannot push the ice block further than the spikes, is that you fall into the yellow TP instead.

rescuefire · Post by **rescuefire** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:29 pm

wow I went back to this and even after reading it all I still have no clue.

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:43 am

Just tell me where you are stuck, Rescurfire.

rescuefire · Post by **rescuefire** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:37 pm

Amnon, from step one. I can't figure any of it out

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:40 pm

Rescuefire: Your first task is to destroy the barrel that is stuck on the top inside a gate - for that you need to bring the other barrel next to it - can you do that?

rescuefire · Post by **rescuefire** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:55 am

Nope

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:05 am

Rescuefire, you need to get into the space between the two teleporters on the right side, then you enter the teleporter 4 times: the first 3 you go down, then the 4th time you go left and push the barrel with you (of course, you must avoid getting hit by fire as you do this).

Can you get into the space between the two teleporters?