Do you think it is a good idea being unable to edit posts?

[billy bob]

1. I doubt anyone will bother.

check it out

I already have.

I completely disagree. I think there are lots of people who will download the attachment but not look at any of the posts below. Just like the people who download levels from the "Return To Wonderland Custom Levels" area but don't post comments.

And you care about those people who download your levels, but never say anything about it?

No, that was an example.

I'd rather not bother someone else.

Why not? You're doing it all the time posting on this forum.

Here we go again...

BB, are you talking to me?

In that case, I'm not sure if that's true. But if it is, then perhaps Deeman223344 is acting worse then you were.

Except what you said was worse than what we did. In Deeman223344's case, I believe you said it yourself: Meanness is worse than Spam. And in my case, to me what I did wasn't bad at all. Because I certainly wasn't trying to do anything bad.

This time, I am expecting a decent response.

[Marinus]

I already have.

Where? If you were asking for a link which is in the middle of a topic, I'm pretty sure someone will give you. If not, I will search for it and give it to you.

No, that was an example.

Then it was not a really good example apparently.

Here we go again...

I see no question or anything else to respond on.

This time, I am expecting a decent response.

I have absolutely no idea what this has to do with this topic and what response you expect.

[billy bob]

This time, I am expecting a decent response.

I have absolutely no idea what this has to do with this topic and what response you expect.

Seeming as you are still being mean, I'm expecting a decent response to this:

BB, are you talking to me?

In that case, I'm not sure if that's true. But if it is, then perhaps Deeman223344 is acting worse then you were.

Except what you said was worse than what we did. In Deeman223344's case, I believe you said it yourself: Meanness is worse than Spam. And in my case, to me what I did wasn't bad at all. Because I certainly wasn't trying to do anything bad.

[Marinus]

Hope is useless.

If you don't know anything better to do then quoting things that happened 3 months ago, then I'm afraid you're right: there's no hope for you.

[Marinus]

Seeming as you are still being mean,

Although I read/realized after my previous post, you wrote this, I wouldn't edit it, even if I could, but I'd rather make a double post. If you ever dare to call someone on this forum mean without a good reason, I'll call, PM, email, etc... Patrick to ban you from this forum. That's not the way people should treat each other on this forum!

[Technos72]

FAIL. I missed the no button.

Thou meant to say no that it's not a good idea to not edit posts

I just thought about something. I made a mistake thinking "thou" means "I" but it actually means "you". This thing here is exactly what we're talking about. (i think )

[billy bob]

Seeming as you are still being mean,

Although I read/realized after my previous post, you wrote this, I wouldn't edit it, even if I could, but I'd rather make a double post. If you ever dare to call someone on this forum mean without a good reason, I'll call, PM, email, etc... Patrick to ban you from this forum. That's not the way people should treat each other on this forum!

This, is not how people should treat each other on this forum:

I'd rather not bother someone else.

Why not? You're doing it all the time posting on this forum.

That is a perfectly good reason, and you've made many other perfectly good reasons in the past other than this too.

[~xpr'd~]

I'd rather not bother someone else.

Why not? You're doing it all the time posting on this forum. :lol:

That is a perfectly good reason, and you've made many other perfectly good reasons in the past other than this too.

You didn't notice that laughing smiley, indicating he was joking?

[tyteen4a03]

I'd rather not bother someone else.

Why not? You're doing it all the time posting on this forum.

That is a perfectly good reason, and you've made many other perfectly good reasons in the past other than this too.

You didn't notice that laughing smiley, indicating he was joking?

Might not be intentional, but I am still considering it impolite.

Please be on point and on topic - personal attacks does not contribute to the discussion.

[Marinus]

I'd rather not bother someone else.

That was a response on something I said. But I wasn't talking about bothering other people. Now I have an idea what you meant, in that specific situation, but to avoid misunderstanding, please tell me what you exactly meant.

[Marinus]

... two days later ...

If you don't want to answer my question, I find it quite nonsense that you made such a problem of it. However, it is possible there are certain circumstances that you were not able to go on internet for more then 2 days. Anyhow, whether you are going to give me an explanation or not, I'll give you one:

And I'm quite sure, that there will be a friendly person who will post you the link, if you ask for.

I'd rather not bother someone else.

So I guess you mean:
- Ask someone to post a link ==> bothering someone else.
That's where I was responding to, and if that's true, you are bothering someone els with all of your posts. Lots of your posts you are asking something, but even if you're actually not asking a question, your posts are still asking something of someone else. If you would say that you make all your posts with the intention that other people would simply ignore them, I would not believe you. You want other people to read what you say, and to respond on it. And, believe it or not, but posting a link is many times easier then responding on your, in my opinion and perhaps other people's opinion, sometimes strange kind of logic. Which means that you're bothering someone else even more by you average posts, then by simply asking for a link. Therefore I find it quite illogical that you made such a bg problem of it.

And there's more that you were bothering someone else. As I tried to make clear in one of my previous posts, I think it's a bad thing that you still keep talking about bad things that happened a while ago. But even then you did it again:

and you've made many other perfectly good reasons in the past other than this too.

I've said several times before, sometimes to you and sometimes to someone else: Don't look back, but look forward. I even had sort of an argument or discussion about it with the other person, and in the end, that person seemed to understand, and seemed to agree. But, although you may be pretty clever if it's about creating levels, or some kind of logical or technical things, when it's about what people want or like, or how people should go along with each other, you seem not to understand that much.

That brings me to the habit that you sometimes act as if you are the one to tell other people how they should be. Simply because I sometimes do or say things that you personally don't like, or perhaps you even haven't any idea what's exactly going on, you think you can tell in general that I am mean.

Let me tell you this; I'd rather not talk about bad things in the past, but if you ever dare to talk about it again, then first you owe me the "uncountable explanations".

As I look at everything that you wrote here in this topic, most of them don't make much sense to me as I tried to explain. Therefore I get the idea that you mainly are desperately searching for a way to get someone else (me, in this case) on making a mistake, to prove that you are right and the other one is wrong, instead of that you really have a good point to add to the discussion. Just in case that you still hope that everyone will realize that you are right, well, then I wish you, it will happen to you in a dream. In real life I'm afraid there's not much chance.

To make the above part a bit more clear, with the same example where the problems started with: The link to the latest version of a game, which is somewhere in the middle of a pretty big topic. If someone else on this forum, someone who doesn't know very well how to search the forum, someone who's perhaps a bit too lazy to search for it, would have mentioned that as a problem, I would have understood. But that problem definitely doesn't apply to you. Because, whatever can be said about you, it's definitely not that you don't know how to search the forum, and neither that you're too lazy for it. If there's something somewhere on this forum, and you want to find it, then I'm pretty sure you will find it.

So, those were a few things of you bothering someone else, in general or specific, and don't worry; I won't make problems of it, except calling someone else mean or bad, and keep talking about bad things in the past for no reason. Please don't do it again.

You didn't notice that laughing smiley, indicating he was joking?

Indeed, it was partly a joke, but also, as you can see above, partly serious.

Might not be intentional, but I am still considering it impolite.

I hope my explanation above will make clear that, and why, I completely disagree with you in this specific situation.

FAIL. I missed the no button.

Thou meant to say no that it's not a good idea to not edit posts

I just thought about something. I made a mistake thinking "thou" means "I" but it actually means "you". This thing here is exactly what we're talking about. (i think )

I would lie if I said that I find that a very clever action:
- In a topic about not being able to edit posts, and
- After I stated several times the reason for that, to know: That people think better before pressing the submit button.
And I also would not find it a good reason to re-enable the edit-function, but, lucky for you, it's not up to me, to make that decision. Perhaps Patrick thinks different about it.

Oh, and last but not least, if you want to talk about yourself again, here's a little hint: Simply use the word: "I"
1. It's shorter to write
2. It's more clear to everyone.
3. It doesn't need to be edited.

[tyteen4a03]

There are also forums where editing is possible, but users must give a reason why they edit. I think if users must explain why they edit, they probably will edit less, then if they don't need to.

Yes, it doesn't take much time to do so.

I think, the root of the editing argument is based on these 2 problems:
1. Post quantity increases but quality decreases. Users in the past tend to "race" to make more posts (myself included, at some point) then brag about this. This, I think, is because that the user title and their post count is a kind of status, like money and power. We always want more and more.

2. Embarrass-ness. Users sometimes gets laughed about just because they made mistakes, like typos.

For 1, this is a problem in our genes, and can't be fixed within a night or something. What we, as a user, can do is to control ourselves. My role, as a moderator, is to promote self-control, act as a role model, and help other to reach this kind of self-control. Yes, I want to do whatever I want. I don't want to go to school, do homework, I can just go on and say (censored), break everything in the world, but if I do so I would mess up things and can lead to unknown results. Without self-control, we could still be a bunch of monkeys wandering around in forests without being able to achieve things, like this forum, PHP, computers, the finding of electricity, etc.

For 2, this kind of embarrass-ness has its useful times and its not-so-useful times. It is a obstacle to achievements (thinking out-of-the-box often comes with laughs from others), but is also useful because it is a sign that you may have done something wrong in the other's eyes and you should reconsider your choice.

Let me extend and edit what Marinus say: Looking back is a reference, but it should not be necessary a burden on looking forward and horizontally. Looking back in history could be a guide on what to do in the present and in the future, but it should never keep you from doing what you want to do in the present, and in the future. The past should only be a suggestion.

But then, it's all about philosophy and humanities, these subjects does not really have an answer, we can only come up with an agreement.

Agreement is something, usually a guideline, we all agree to do/follow. On joining this forum, you agree to the forum rules. If you do not agree, then you can't join.

Gotta go, I don't really know the core purpose of posting this, nor does this comes up with any conclusion/new points, just my 2 cents that I think about this. :P

[Marinus]

I think you said that well, and about my saying "Don't look back, but look forward" I would like to add, that it's not meant as a black and white sentence which apply in every situation, but I think it does apply in the situations when I mentioned it.

If anyone wants, I can say more about it, trying to find, or think of some examples, but otherwise I would like to leave it now.

[dlcs18]

1. Post quantity increases but quality decreases. Users in the past tend to "race" to make more posts (myself included, at some point) then brag about this. This, I think, is because that the user title and their post count is a kind of status, like money and power. We always want more and more.

What does this in particular have to do with being able to edit posts?

[tyteen4a03]

1. Post quantity increases but quality decreases. Users in the past tend to "race" to make more posts (myself included, at some point) then brag about this. This, I think, is because that the user title and their post count is a kind of status, like money and power. We always want more and more.

What does this in particular have to do with being able to edit posts?

I don't really know the core purpose of posting this, nor does this comes up with any conclusion/new points, just my 2 cents that I think about this.

AKA I just lost my mind and the game.

[Marinus]

I think it has to do with each other. If people make a lot posts (quantity increases) but actually have not much to say (quality decreases) I think there's more chance they make errors and mistakes, so they may want to edit them.

When they only posts if they really have something to say, they probably will be much more careful about what they say, so there's less chance something needs to be edited.