A Very Annoying Glitch With Windows 7 Computers Help Please!

md · Post by md » Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:08 am

For some reason, I found a glitch with Windows 7 Computers. For some reason, when you open a game (e.g. Wonderland) and save a file, it won't appear in the actual folder in Program Files (it'll only appear if the game folder is put in "C:\...\).

Example:
*Just say you're editing a Return to Wonderland level and you save it as "TEST34" (file: "TEST34.LV6").
*If you go into the "\Return to Wonderland\CustomLevels\...\", the file won't be there, but the game recognizes it and can find it (thus not being able to delete the file or move it by going into the folder).
*If you search the file, you can find it and the computer recognizes it.
*It doesn't display in it's actual folder, but just say it's put on the desktop or the folders moved out of "C:\Program Files" and just put into C:\..., the files are actually put into the folder "\Return to Wonderland\CustomLevels" and the level "TEST34.LV6" dissapears unless you put the folder "Return to Wonderland" back into Program Files, it will reappear.

It could have to do with that "Program Files" has a security thing (I'm not sure what).

Does anyone know how to fix this?

Thanks a lot!

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 12:02 pm

Not a glitch, just Windows 7 being paranoid as heck.

I don't know how exactly does it work in Windows 7 but there should be an option to be able to see "hidden files and folders". If the problem still persists after that, then it's a glitch...

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 12:32 pm

As far as I know, the Wonderland games, (at least the older games) are actually DOS-based programs, which means, they don't need Windows registers, and it doesn't matter at what location on your harddisk they are. (They don't necessary have to be in the "Program Files" folder.)

So I have made a new folder in the "root" of the C drive, and in that folder my RTW folder and other Wonderland folders C:\Wonderland\Return To Wonderland

So perhaps it is an idea to move, (or try first with copy) your RTW folder somewhere else, and if it works fine, you can delete the original folder which was in "Program Files".

tyteen4a03 · Post by **tyteen4a03** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 12:52 pm

Marinus wrote:As far as I know, the Wonderland games, (at least the older games) are actually DOS-based programs, which means, they don't need Windows registers, and it doesn't matter at what location on your harddisk they are. (They don't necessary have to be in the "Program Files" folder.)

This has nothing to do with DOS-based stuff.

Wonderland seems to use Relative path (so if I try to access ../ (a folder up) in different directories it will get different results). This is probably a bug in Wonderland and caused some confusions with Windows 7.

(But it doesn't make much sense to me - MS should use ./CustomLevels from the exe to get the custom levels... probably some nesting bugs.)

md · Post by md » Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:39 pm

It's isn't just with Wonderland, it also happens with other games/programs. I'm not sure why.

A good solution if you use Windows 7 is to put all your level-editing games/programs, like "Return to Wonderland", in the C-Drive, not C:\Program Files\...\ (also "Game Maker" if you have it).

md · Post by md » Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:40 pm

md wrote:It doesn't just happen with Wonderland, it also happens with other games/programs. I'm not sure why.
A good solution if you use Windows 7 is to put all your level-editing games/programs, like "Return to Wonderland", in the C-Drive, not C:\Program Files\...\ (also "Game Maker" if you have it).

md · Post by md » Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:42 pm

Ignore my last post with the quote, I didn't realise that you can't edit your posts in the Off-Topic Discussion Forum. I accidentally pressed quote by mistake.

Sammy_P · Post by **Sammy_P** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:55 pm

And that one?

Gosh, every user wants editing back.

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:06 pm

- MD, then I assume it was just as Muzo said: the problem that the systemfolders like Windows, and Program Files are hidden. But I also think you can change those settings, for I don't have those folders hidden right now.

- Tyteen, I don't know if it has to do with DOS-based stuff, but all I know is that back in the time the PC's were running with only DOS, it didn't make difference in which folder the programs were, and it didn't matter either if you moved a program to another folder, just like with the Wonderland games.

- Sammy, and what do you have to say now?! No, not every user wants to edit posts. Most people think a bit better before they post, as opposed to you. If you really have something important to say, then say it, otherwise please shut your mouth!

tyteen4a03 · Post by **tyteen4a03** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:26 am

Marinus wrote:- Tyteen, I don't know if it has to do with DOS-based stuff, but all I know is that back in the time the PC's were running with only DOS, it didn't make difference in which folder the programs were, and it didn't matter either if you moved a program to another folder, just like with the Wonderland games.

Yup, that is called an absolute path. It will only lead to one directory. Most program uses relative paths in the old days is because it will save disk space (less characters, more space for other stuff). People still use it because it enables portability.

But I am not exactly sure about the whole situation, so I will not comment more. Maybe PMing MS helps.