New Level - Knights Of The Folding Table 21

Chip · Post by **Chip** » Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:14 pm

The Knights Of The Folding Table 21

A sane genius is great.
A mad genius is not so great.
But the worst case is a mad genius hiding behind a sane one.

Have fun!

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Sat Mar 29, 2014 1:59 am

What a joy this was to play!!!

Ingenious from beginning to end!

From deciphering the opening code to the exit dilemma.

Thank you Chip!

Jutomi · Post by **Jutomi** » Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:35 am

Oh my goodness, Chip, this level was so beautiful and ingenious!

Really, to me, it was a real work of art.

Though I have not figured out how to get the bonus coins...

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:53 am

Though I have not figured out how to get the bonus coins..

Getting them is easy: All you need is two characters, one blocking the other way: the difficulty is exiting that area, for which you need a box in the water.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:59 am

Amnon wrote:
Though I have not figured out how to get the bonus coins..
Getting them is easy: All you need is two characters, one blocking the other way: the difficulty is exiting that area, for which you need a box in the water.

There is still yet another way to exit.
I'm curious which one Chip intended.
Also had a couple unused break-tiles.

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Sat Mar 29, 2014 12:02 pm

Have you found an alternate way to exit, Mark?

Yes, it was intended that you don't need to use all break-tiles.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Sat Mar 29, 2014 12:13 pm

Amnon wrote:Have you found an alternate way to exit, Mark?

Yes, it was intended that you don't need to use all break-tiles.

My way of exiting from the TP's is similar to Chip's #17.
I also found two different ways to exit at the very end.

Chip · Post by **Chip** » Sat Mar 29, 2014 12:17 pm

Hi Jutomi
The bonus puzzle allows two different approaches:

1. You can solve it either with a box or with a boulder, it depends on your strategy.
2. But in any case you have to sacrifice one of your items, so choose wisely...

Good luck!

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Sat Mar 29, 2014 1:12 pm

As for the very end, the details on how to enter the last room can vary, but essentially I only found one way to exit. What's important is that 3 come from the left and one from the right: did you manage the get them 2 by 2, Mark?

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Sat Mar 29, 2014 1:16 pm

Yes, well done Mark, you found an alternate way which I didn't see!

Jutomi · Post by **Jutomi** » Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:32 pm

Honestly, that, I kind of presumed, but...

I honestly don't know how to do the level without all of the items.

P.S. for the last area, did you, off chance,

Jutomi wrote:break the boulders?

Because, if so, then I did it right.

If not...
well, then I did some thing.

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:36 pm

I honestly don't know how to do the level without all of the items

Despite Mark's new way, it is still not possible to complete this level without all the items, so I would advise against breaking any of them.

bob roest · Post by **bob roest** » Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:40 pm

I had no trouble collecting the bonus coins and exiting the characters, two from the left and two from the right.

However, the opening spheres section still has me boondoggled so I have to go back and see if I can work that out. I've been having a lot of 'duh' moments lately so wish me luck.

edit: Phew, managed to work out the opening room. This was a fun challenge Chip, thank-you.

Jutomi · Post by **Jutomi** » Sat Mar 29, 2014 4:57 pm

The opening room was probably the easiest part for me, honestly.

The exit was strange, but I exited with three on the left and one on the right...

Liz Mayhew · Post by **Liz Mayhew** » Sat Mar 29, 2014 4:57 pm

It's the reverse for me Bob.
I solved the sphere room with no problems. How happy was I?

But the top section is majorly problematic for me.

Still working on it ...

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:35 pm

Just to clarify, the intended way for the top room is 3 on the left, one on the right.

bob roest · Post by **bob roest** » Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:32 pm

Amnon wrote:the intended way for the top room is 3 on the left, one on the right.

I replayed this and managed to exit in the desired manner but I like the two left, two right combo better. It's more symmetrical and somehow I think that suits Chip's levels better.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Sun Mar 30, 2014 3:08 pm

bob roest wrote:
Amnon wrote:the intended way for the top room is 3 on the left, one on the right.
I replayed this and managed to exit in the desired manner but I like the two left, two right combo better. It's more symmetrical and somehow I think that suits Chip's levels better.

You voiced my exact thoughts, Bob.
I first solved it the intended way because of the 3-step break-tile.
Then I found it could be done symmetrically with two on each side.
A hallmark of every Chip adventure.

doodlebug · Post by **doodlebug** » Sun Mar 30, 2014 3:39 pm

After a lot of tries I finally got them all out. The bonus coins was the hard part.

Thanks

Annie

Chip · Post by **Chip** » Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:41 pm

Hi Bob, hi Mark
Amnon and I had the 3/1-method in mind when we tested the level. We didn't realize the alternate solution enabled by the redundant breaktiles.
But that's no problem: Both methods require creative thinking, and both should be rewarding.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:04 pm

Chip wrote:Both methods require creative thinking, and both should be rewarding.

You are correct Chip!

It is twice the fun.

I was able to play it again for the alternate solution on the bonus coins (thanks to Amnon) and the exit puzzle.
I've also found a simpler way of deciphering the opening code.
In fact, I'm still playing it just for the fun.

bob roest · Post by **bob roest** » Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:38 pm

I have a question, Amnon said that to exit the bonus area you need to put a box in the water. What water are you referring to? Because I put both boxes in the waterholes below the coins in the middle. I did use one to redirect a boulder first.

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:14 pm

Because I put both boxes in the waterholes below the coins in the middle

Then Bob, you didn't make use of another element that could help you with that bridge.

Chip · Post by **Chip** » Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:12 pm

Here's a video solution. Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i06C1pXvCg

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:36 pm

I solved the first puzzle step-by-step exactly like you did.
But I did not use either boulder on the islands by the exit.
It's interesting how each of us perceive things differently.
As they say: "A picture is worth a thousand words".

Jutomi · Post by **Jutomi** » Sat Apr 05, 2014 4:11 pm

Oh, shocking!

I must be one of those forlorn words ,_,

P.S. For the ending,

Jutomi wrote:I just smashed the two boulders together.

Liz Mayhew · Post by **Liz Mayhew** » Sun Apr 06, 2014 6:58 am

Thanks for the video solution Chip

I too did the first puzzle exactly the same.
After that I was floundering around in the dark, so I needed the help.

Wonderful fun thanks!