WLD\WSW\RTW Hacking Topic

Caton · Post by **Caton** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:58 pm

tooncool64 · Post by **tooncool64** » Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:15 am

Whoa. Dude.

That's strange.

Caton · Post by **Caton** » Fri Dec 05, 2014 2:31 am

Here is a video of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KivR8xN3pL4

Caton · Post by **Caton** » Fri Dec 05, 2014 3:24 am

Isn't that strange.

Jutomi · Post by **Jutomi** » Fri Dec 05, 2014 3:54 am

Well, it is interesting, to say a fair bit.

I'm especially bewildered that you're able to change the game like that.

Caton · Post by **Caton** » Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:04 am

I discover this when removing the two functions.
I wanted to learn how the game works.

OondiLalaLoopy · Post by **OondiLalaLoopy** » Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:24 pm

How will help this to make a new gameplay???STRANGE...

Oh and I use Power wop but I don't how to use it...I'm so bad at wops...

Caton · Post by **Caton** » Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:20 pm

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Caton · Post by **Caton** » Fri Dec 05, 2014 9:43 pm

OondiLalaLoopy wrote:How will help this to make a new gameplay???STRANGE...

Oh and I use Power wop but I don't how to use it...I'm so bad at wops...

I can help you with that.

OondiLalaLoopy · Post by **OondiLalaLoopy** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:20 am

Thanks Caton!!

Caton · Post by **Caton** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:27 am

now, what do need help with, on the wop editor?

Caton · Post by **Caton** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:36 am

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Caton · Post by **Caton** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:50 pm

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Caton · Post by **Caton** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:33 pm

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Caton · Post by **Caton** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:40 pm

Caton · Post by **Caton** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:29 am

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jdl · Post by **jdl** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:35 pm

I have two questions:

1) Are you posting the source code for the game? If so, that is illegal and you should stop.
2) What are we even going to use all this code for anyway?

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:53 pm

1) Are you posting the source code for the game? If so, that is illegal and you should stop.

But sharing funky hacks on YouTube probably isn't.

First of all, this is technically (probably) not source code, because no one (other than MS) has the source. Any decompilers will only get you to an intermediate stage. It's Blitz3D code, but it's not the original Blitz3D code, if that makes sense.

I could be wrong, but I don't think there's a way to get the "original" Blitz3D code.

As for using, by hex-editing the game Caton has been able to get various funky effects, which (along with the whole "so THAT is how the game works") seems to be its own reward for Caton.

There's one practical possibility that I'm seeing here. Hex-editing for LV6 files has become a thing already, but the level editor consistently crashes if you open a hex-edited LV6 file because it's not meant to handle hex-only tiles. So, as for "usage", perhaps we could put together images for some of these hex-only tiles and the editor could be hacked to include them?

Even just allowing the editor to put two Loofs would allow a wider range of level creators to use the "ghost Loof" trick.

Overall, I don't know what to think about this far, but this is interesting.

tyteen4a03 · Post by **tyteen4a03** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 2:23 pm

I think the coily source code came from a WA3 screenshot.

Caton · Post by **Caton** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:26 pm

Caton · Post by **Caton** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:28 pm

OondiLalaLoopy · Post by **OondiLalaLoopy** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:03 pm

Caton wrote:now, what do need help with, on the wop editor?

With everything!
I have no idea how to use it!

Caton · Post by **Caton** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:13 pm

Caton · Post by **Caton** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:59 pm

OondiLalaLoopy, have any questions about the wop editor? or help?

OondiLalaLoopy · Post by **OondiLalaLoopy** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:09 pm

Caton wrote:OondiLalaLoopy, have any questions about the wop editor? or help?

With everything!
I have no idea how to use it!

Caton · Post by **Caton** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:22 pm

Caton · Post by **Caton** » Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:29 am

Caton · Post by **Caton** » Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:52 am

garirry · Post by **garirry** » Mon Dec 08, 2014 1:05 am

Caton wrote:
jdl wrote:I have two questions:
1) Are you posting the source code for the game?
No. Why are you denying the fact that you ARE posting the code?
jdl wrote: 2) What are we even going to use all this code for anyway?
I don't think you can unless you code the arrays and functions and globals. You aren't answering his question, actually.

Comments in bold.

EDIT: Also, LOOK AT HOW MUCH YOU'VE POSTED ON THIS THREAD! Why can't you just write all the explanation in one single post and end this? I do support your work at a point, but please, no need to post that much.

Caton · Post by **Caton** » Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:30 pm

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