The troll level challenge!

cloudrac3r · Post by **cloudrac3r** » Thu Dec 29, 2016 3:04 am

The levels are out! Scroll down a few posts.
Didn't submit your level in time? Just upload it as a reply to this topic. No one will mind!

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Remember my previous level design challenge? Well, 8 months later, I've got a new one!

The challenge:
- Create a troll level (see below for definition) in the Return to Wonderland editor
- Send it to me as a private message on or before 13 Jan 2017
- On 16 Jan 2017, I will post all the troll levels here for everyone to not enjoy!

Rules and guidelines:
- It must be possible to complete the level!
- It must be possible to earn a gold star from the level (i.e. collect all bonus coins and finish)
- It can be any size, use any number of Stinkers, and have any number of rainbow coins, bonus points, and clocks.
- You may submit as many troll levels as you like!
- You may upload video solutions if you can and if you want to. If you can't or don't, that's not a problem.

Custom content/hex/mods:
- You may use custom textures, backgrounds, houses and models if you wish. In your private message, either link to the forum topic,
- You may use hex-editing if you want to, so long as it will not crash the game
- You may not use a modded version of Return to Wonderland in any way. Use an unmodified copy to create and test the levels.

If you want, you may post small spoilers/previews/screenshots/descriptions as a reply before the levels are released. You may post whatever you want once the levels arereleased. Of course, if you have any questions, go ahead and ask away!

What is a troll level?
The purpose of a troll level is to be really annoying to play, and so you should use game elements that are really annoying to deal with. Or, a troll level can have things where you think that you've completed it, but then you get killed or blocked off at the last second. Here's some examples of annoying things to start you off and to spur your imagination:
- Fake wall maze / Invisible wall maze / Both
- Coilys

- Electricity / Spikes / Both
- 3D view

Of course, feel free to use those ideas, but I hope that you will use your imagination to come up with even better trolls of your own by combining many editor tiles. I will of course be submitting my own troll level as well.
If you feel like watching a YouTube video, you can see an example of a troll level, except made in Super Mario Maker, not Return to Wonderland. Still, I'm sure you get the idea!

Have fun trolling your fellow players!

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:26 am

Troll level submitted. No spoilers yet at this stage, except that you will really HATE it.

cloudrac3r · Post by **cloudrac3r** » Fri Dec 30, 2016 4:02 am

Thank you very much Amnon! My own troll level is well underway, and so is PPR.

Chip · Post by **Chip** » Sat Dec 31, 2016 1:39 am

Hi cloud

Thanks for the challenge.

Contribution sent. Hope you enjoy the spirits that you've cited.

cloudrac3r · Post by **cloudrac3r** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:29 am

I feel like I need to make a quick update to the rules (this will also be edited into my first post)
- It must be possible to complete the level!
- It must be possible to earn a gold star from the level (i.e. collect all bonus coins and finish)
- You may use custom textures, backgrounds, houses and models if you wish. In your private message, link to their topic or upload their ZIP file.
- You may submit as many troll levels as you like

Chip: I was pleased to recieve your level! Unfortunately I don't understand the "spirits" reference in your post. Care to explain, or is it unimportant?

Chip · Post by **Chip** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:52 pm

Hi cloud

"The spirits that I've cited" is a quote from Goethe's poem "The Sorcerer's Apprentice".
The sorcerers had to deal with untamed brooms, and you have to deal with untamed trolls now.
But I'm sure you'll show them who the true master is...

.

cloudrac3r · Post by **cloudrac3r** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:18 am

The troll levels are out!
I've tried them all briefly, and you're going to hate them.

Install instructions: Extract the TROLL folder from TROLL.ZIP into your "Return To Wonderland\CustomLevels" folder. You'll see the TROLL folder show up in the RTW editor.

The video solution for my level. You might need it.

Share your experiences in this topic!

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:37 am

Well Chip, your level is just great and very clever, but as a troll, it is so much nicer and fairer than mine!

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:41 am

This was very naughty, Cloud - thanks!!!

cloudrac3r · Post by **cloudrac3r** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:11 am

Amnon-- if you managed to complete my level without watching the video, using the editor, or looking around the edge, I applaud you. Otherwise, well done anyway!
And, I managed to complete your level without the bonus coins by

Spoiler wrote:sneaking both Stinky and Loof out of the exit in the top-left corner.

I'm not sure of the correct way to do it yet. If I had to describe your level in one word, it would be "abomination".

Chip-- apart from the chomper blowing me up, your level doesn't actually seem very trolly. Heck, it's even got decoration signs! I haven't completed it yet, so there may be more trolls, but it doesn't look like it.

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:13 am

Thanks, Jutomi!

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:17 am

Hi Cloud,

Amnon-- if you managed to complete my level without watching the video, using the editor, or looking around the edge, I applaud you. Otherwise, well done anyway!

I didn't look at the video or the editor. Of course I was using the Shift key to look around the level, including the parts where Stinkers cannot go, but that's a very standard practice.

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:32 am

And, I managed to complete your level without the bonus coins by

Yes, this should not be too difficult.

Obviously it is intended that you come out a winner with gold, not just find your way cowardly out.

Jutomi · Post by **Jutomi** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:57 pm

Amnon wrote:Thanks, Jutomi!

Don't mention it...

I mean it, I know how hard this must have been for you.

Chip · Post by **Chip** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:01 pm

Hi cloud

The gang made it home.

The white and cyan gates were a great challenge, a real 'troll'.
Thanks for your puzzle and this topic.

Chip · Post by **Chip** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:23 pm

Hi Jutomi
Peegue made it.

Thanks for the challenge.

Chip · Post by **Chip** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:15 am

Hi Amnon
Made it.

A really annoying level with a great exit puzzle!
Two of the boxes weren't used. Thanks for the fun.

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:18 am

Thanks for playing, Chip!

I did realise later that one of the boxes need not be used, but two? Well done!

Chip · Post by **Chip** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:39 am

Hi Amnon

The top right and the bottom left boxes remained untouched in my solution.
Guess the bottom left one is redundant and could be replaced by a wall.

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:57 am

The top right and the bottom left boxes remained untouched in my solution.

Don't you need the top right box for the cannon?
Sure, Stinky could dodge the cannon-fire, but that would be taking a chance with the electro and would work only around 70% of the time.

Oh, I can see what Stinky could do instead... I missed it!

Guess the bottom left one is redundant and could be replaced by a wall.

But wouldn't it make this level too easy?

Chip · Post by **Chip** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:52 pm

Hi Amnon

I don't think so. Hidden amidst fake walls it would still be a nice challenge to gain the other two boxes.
But this fix isn't really essential. The level works fine as it is, and I had a lot of fun to unravel it.

Thanks again.

cloudrac3r · Post by **cloudrac3r** » Sat Jan 21, 2017 2:49 am

Shoot! I messed up big time, guys.
I totally forgot to include RoberTime's level in the collection! I'm so sorry, RoberTime!
I'm going to post the level as an attachment to the post with the Troll.zip download. Play it!

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:36 am

I totally forgot to include RoberTime's level in the collection! I'm so sorry, RoberTime!

That's not much of a troll - my Stinky completed it in 20 seconds.

cloudrac3r · Post by **cloudrac3r** » Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:03 pm

If you say so. Unfortunately I fell for every tick in the book. Still haven't finished checking for fake walls. I think he outdid us all!

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:08 pm

Still haven't finished checking for fake walls.

Most of which are useless.

Chip · Post by **Chip** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:17 pm

Hi RoberTime

Thanks for the fun.