New Level(Adv) : Marizzy 2 - Condition Training

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Post by Dizzy1 » Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:18 pm

Oh, I feel just horrible that everyone is stuck! :cry: :oops: Except for Bob!! Way to go Bob, you're awesome. :D

Maybe a walk-through will be posted tomorrow?

In the meantime...I'm going back to work on my easy, no-brainer levels :lol:
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Post by uneekrose » Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:52 pm

I'm going back to work on my easy, no-brainer levels
YAY
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Post by pandybear » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:34 am

DOUBLE YAY! Not that this isn't fun to try to figure out with the clues that I can't figure out, but I need something I can accomplish right now - way to go Bob is right! But I never doubted his ability ever! I don't have that sticktuitiveness that is needed on this right now . . . but "I will be back" to it eventually! It really is fun . . . I will probably post my accomplishment in the year 2010
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Post by Marinus » Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:43 pm

Full Walkthrough

1 The beginning

Qookie steps 1 right pushing box and prism. Back, getting bonuscoins and wait 2 tiles above green gate. Push lower goobie into water two tiles below tramp at the right. Enter ice circle from top right and step quick right. Other goobie goes the same way. Get coin, jump, get other coin and push steel in water. 4 new steelboxes be generated. The one on top to the right in water, the one on the left down in water and the one below 1 right, 1 up jumping and curving and ends two tiles below gen.

2 Prism on green

Step DLLD (bottom right of the center of ice circle.) Push one of the three prisms out of the circle to the right on the goobies, and the steel on the ice circle (to keep pink gate open) Glide/tramp/push prism to green button.

3 Steelboxes instead of breaktile below green gate.

(From green button) Step down, right, down onto ice circle and quick left. Down until on breaktile. UURR (right of the bottom right opening in ice circle). Wait for steel and push LLL steel to left of circle. Walk RUU on circle then L and push steel in water. Go to the right of gen pushing steel over tramp, follow and push it from the top right corner on the ice circle. Push steel box at top of gen 1 step left in pink gate to be destroyed. Then go back to ice circle and push skating steel from circle in water the same way as the other.

4 Barrel destroys boulder, other boulder jumps on coin above water.

Get two coins in barrelroom, (don't step on other breaktile) go back on steelboxbridge, go down jumping over barrel, and push barrel up until you are 1 tile above green gate. Go RUL (on top of barrel) and LD and push barrel to the center. DRLUL and push barrel down to destroy boulder. Follow and push other boulder left. Step on breaktile (first time of two step breaktile) and push boulder down. The boulder jumps on coin (invisible box glitch) Because a boulder doesn't float there has to jump another thing (steel box) on that coin, but that happens later.

5 Use lower woodbox for the fire

Step on travelator to the woodboxes near Loof. From travelator DR and there happens a sort of gliding glitch because the woodbox is on ice. So you can push the woodbox over the lava. Push wood left until below green gate, walk around and push it down, jump jump jump jump, push it up to the fire on top. Follow and get coin on yellow timer.

6 Fill up the lava, 3 steel boxes needed, 1 of them you get back and jumps on coin.

From yellow timer step down and right, push lower steel box right, up, jump, glide and push steel on the ice circle. Push other steel in pink gate. From the center of the circle push steel outside to the right and bring it on top of the gen. Wait until pink gate has destroyed other steel box. Again from circlecenter push prism outside and back on circle, quickly push last steel box in pink gate and get the hell out of there. 4 new steelboxes be generated. One has to be destroyed, the other 3 are necessary!

Bring steelbox on circle, then push from the right into center, push it down, walk around and push it on travelator. Repeat with other 2 steelboxes, they go into lava. Therefore do the same act, bringing a prism off and on the circle to open pink gate. Quickly walk around gen and push left box down on circle. When lava is filled up stand on the two steelboxes and go up (pushing steel down) follow down, right and push the steel all the way to the left. Step for the second/last time on breaktile and let steel box jump on coin. Follow, get coin, and take a cup of coffee.

7 Setting Loof free

Q steps on light-blue timer and Loof escapes down left pushing the woodbox. Push the box as far as necessary to go up (3rd tile from the left wall) and jump to yellow timer. Q jump up twice, walk around wall, push wood box 1 step left, walk around again and push wood box down to the place where the barrel was. (to be save there for a while) Step left down waiting for Loof. Loof has to work now: DRR pushing lower steel box. Then push it up, pushing, jumping and gliding all together (Loof and 2 steel boxes). One of the boxes goes on the circle, then go back to push the top box into pink gate. Push box on circle the same way as the other boxes to fill the water where the 2 step breaktile was. Q has to do the last push. Repeat with other box.

Q stands on last pushed box. Loof goes right on travelator, down and push boulder. (pink gate must be close) Q pushes boulder down, it goes into water bottom left. Other boulder the same story. Then Q pushes a prism again off/on the circle and quickly gets the last steel box. Box goes on circle to keep pink gates open again. Loof gets last coin in that area and waits above lower lightblue gate. Q goes again to the light blue timer and Loof escapes the second time.

8 The bottom room

Collect bonus coins, push sphere down and boulder up and right. Push sphere right and run for you life. (but not too far) Sphere comes on white button, boulder on red.

9 The right room

Enter red TP, again, again and again. Collect coins on buttons. Set top right conveyor (of the 4 in a square) into the other direction. Step on top left conveyor and wait for spheres to reach their goals. Get coin in bottom right corner, in top right corner and the last one.

10 Finale

Push plasma box in water and step back. Q goes up jump, jump. From the center of the circle push the two prisms (or the steel box) out to the right side. One on the goobies and the other two tiles left. The third thing stays on the circle, but on the right side. The last wood box on the pink timer. Then the other two back on the circle. (Woodfactory turning on) Loof pushes wood box in water and step back very quickly. The next woodbox aside and step back again, so Q can enter the light bue TP. And they are living long and happy. :D
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Post by bob roest » Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:38 pm

Now that's a walk-through! :D

I did do it a little different but not much. For no.3 filling the waterhole below the green gate I used the 2 remaining prisms. I found they were just in my way and I didn't need them later anyway.

And no.9 the right room, all you have to do is push the first sphere down and then right, you don't have to get fancy with the conveyors.

All in all an amazing piece of work, I'm not sure I want to do another one right away but it was a challenge!

Thanks again guys,
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Post by Marinus » Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:27 pm

Yes you're right. I noticed you had only steel boxes skating, no prisms. I didn't get that idea for I was afraid to have not enough time to run from pink timer around gen through pink gate. After all I think your way is even better. :D

And those conveyors is funny Dizzy stuff. All those tedious box pushing until eternity some boring Marinus stuff. 8)
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Post by uneekrose » Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:44 pm

Well, I haven't finished this but eventually I will. I ran out of time and was still a bit confused about the end. I was doing the beginning right except for Qookie getting that box, I can't remember all these glitches and the first time Qookie had done that with the wood boxes they went into the lava and blew up so I never tried it again, maybe I did it to fast or something.
I noticed what Bob had done with the prisms, I have done the same thing. Kudo's to you Bob for solving this one. I haven't given up only for a bit. I'll come back to it but right now I need a break from it. It is a complicated complex level. I'm off to play a few easy ones.
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Post by Dizzy1 » Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:02 pm

Marinus wrote:And those conveyors is funny Dizzy stuff. All those tedious box pushing until eternity some boring Marinus stuff. 8)
I started the level and made the ice circles (not the flame) at the beginning and then the barrel tramp, and the crappy conveyor/sphere stuff at the end....sent it to Marinus and he added on to everything and did an unbelievable job. I was amazed at his creations. All the magic and tricky stuff. Marinus, you are a spectacular level creator. :D After we've all had a good rest (a few days, lol) we can start on another one. :lol:

ps. Although completely useless...I thought the conveyor/sphere area was absolutely beautiful, the way the colors flowed together...the green in the two-way conveyors, against the matching red spheres, displayed a breath-taking contrast, not to mention the cyan button beaming out from under it all.
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Post by bob roest » Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:19 pm

Dizzy1 wrote:I thought the conveyor/sphere area was absolutely beautiful, the way the colors flowed together...the green in the two-way conveyors, against the matching red spheres, displayed a breath-taking contrast, not to mention the cyan button beaming out from under it all.
I couldn't agree more, a stunning visual display, but after spending 13 hours getting there...fast and simple seemed the way to go. :D
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Post by Dizzy1 » Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:32 pm

I couldn't agree more, a stunning visual display, but after spending 13 hours getting there...fast and simple seemed the way to go.
:lol: :lol: No kidding....I agree! :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by kiki » Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:02 pm

:D :D :D Well I do have a bit of hair left so I decided to take a break for a bit and let some grow back, I am making good headway and no I have not used the hints...yet!
All I can say is that you two have done one hell of a job designing this one humdinger of a devilish level and I will report back when I have finished, don't know when that will be but I am confident that I will.
Carry on mates! :D :D :D
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Post by uneekrose » Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:07 am

Holy smoke batman...........I finally beat the level.
phfffft.........
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Post by bob roest » Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:45 am

uneekrose wrote:I haven't given up only for a bit. I'll come back to it.
I know the feeling. :wink: :D
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Post by Lillie » Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:33 pm

Thanks for the walkthrough Mari-Madonna - you could have made it a bit longer dontcha think? :lol: :lol: :lol: Well done you for finding the time to do that - thanks! :D

Great level you two lovebirds :P :P Very tricky and intricate indeedy! 8)

Pleased to report that I have my gold star (thanks to your walkthrough) so I take no credit whatsoever! :roll:

Ace level - BRAVO! :D
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Post by Liz Mayhew » Sat Jun 07, 2008 7:06 am

I play this one with the walkthrough about 3-4 times a day to keep up my Condition Training. I still haven't managed to complete it. Something always goes wrong and I can't do it YET AGAIN until another day.

One day ... in the far far distant future ... a gold star may be gained! :wink:
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Post by Marinus » Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:48 pm

Monica and Lillie, I'm glad to hear you finished this level. :D

I have to say I always play with time off, but in this case I had to try out how long it took about, and I thought 7.5 minutes will do. But when I saw your time Monica, it took me several tries to equalise it. 8) And in that time you also hided the last wood box. :lol:

Lillie, I'm very sorry that my walk through wasn't long enough 8) :lol: but glad to hear you did it though. :D Thanks for your reply. :D

Liz, I'm glad to hear you're still working on your condition :lol: See you in the future. :D
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Post by Mark » Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:44 am

I'm bumping this level up in memory of Marinus. 8)
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Post by Amnon » Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:23 am

What a monster!!!

If you can view this, Marinus, up in heaven - thank you!
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