HATETRIS -- the most evil version of Tetris ever made

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:13 am

It's Tetris, but without gravity, because... trust me... gravity is the least of your problems here. Because it's a version of Tetris that is cruelly and cleverly designed to always present you the worst piece. So it's not random. In fact, it's predetermined, so we're all playing the same game, the same puzzle.

People have managed to get into 20+ and even 30+ lines cleared... but try clearing even a single one. So far I can't. It really is mean.

Yes, you'll see a lot of "S" pieces", but they are not the only ones in the game. If they were, you could make lines forever and it'd be boring. (And if you can't figure out how to make a line with only "S" pieces, it's your fault then)

UP rotates pieces. To get the next piece, get the current one to the bottom and then press DOWN to lock it.

Also, it's written in Javascript, so make sure it's enabled.

This epicness is here: http://qntm.org/files/hatetris/hatetris.html

tyteen4a03 · Post by **tyteen4a03** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:04 pm

This thing IS hateful. I only got to 2 lines before everything starts piling up against my will.

|Cookie| · Post by **|Cookie|** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:22 pm

tyteen4a03 wrote:This thing IS hateful. I only got to 2 lines before everything starts piling up against my will.

Same here!

yot yot5 · Post by **yot yot5** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:21 pm

Ouch... This is a painful game to play!

I made it through 4 lines then piled up to my doom.

jdl · Post by **jdl** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:30 pm

I only made 1 line..

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:51 pm

Well, I managed to make two lines, but not more than that.

EDIT: Replay here:

A888 8AAA AB5A AABA AA00 AAAA ABAA AAAA AADA 6AAA AAA8 88AD 5999 9AAA AAB5 6AEA AAAA 28E8 8AAA AABA AAAA AA8C AB55 D6AA AA22 2AAA BFEA AAAA 96AA A8AA AE16 AAAA 882B 543C 8AAA A88B AABF EAA6 6B8A AAA6 676A A82A AA57 6FF0 C028 3E7D 6AA2 22EA AA99 A2EE A966 69AA A888 8D55 6AA2 888A A7A2 2235 9A2A 2EAA A55E 6AA2 6EA6 66B6 A9DA A222 0C0A AAAA 8030 AAAC 02AA 3EAA 6B55 AA76 A88A F3FF FCA2 899B 3470 56A

Derp · Post by **Derp** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:59 pm

Leaderboard:

1st: Pawelec with SIX LINES!
2nd: Yot yot with 4 lines.
4th: Tyteen, Kidkid, Muz, and Qloof, All with 2 lines.
5th: Jdl with 1
6th: Derp with NOTHING!
7th: (Insert Person Here)
8th: (Insert A FISH here)
9th: (Insert Person Here)
10th: (Insert Waffles here)

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:36 pm

And now I can't even re-do my 2 lines anymore...

Damn, what did I do to myself? This thing is going to take way too much of my free time...

Pawelec · Post by **Pawelec** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:41 pm

6 ones and nothing more... How do they manage to do 20?

yot yot5 · Post by **yot yot5** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:43 pm

BAH! Now I have to solve another 3 lines!

Qloof234 · Post by **Qloof234** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:21 pm

This... This is satanic.

I got to two lines before screwing up.

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:14 pm

Just as I told you, the nonexistence of gravity does not help all that much.

In fact, for me it doesn't even feel like a tetris game anymore, it feels like one of those multi-state maze puzzles, only crazier.

EDIT: I just found a more tetris-like version with gravity (slow speed) that is a quick port of bastet, which was the original "evil tetris" for Linux. This one is designed to be more "fair" to the player to feel more like a normal tetris game before screwing you over. It's a nice "why is this not working" feeling, but it's way too forgiving compared to HATETRIS. I still haven't been able to get more than 2 lines in HATETRIS while in this bastet thing I got 8 lines without really thinking... only reason I didn't get more is because I wasn't paying attention and started screwing up badly. You can play it here:

http://l0ser.net/src/as3/bastet/bastet-new.swf

The original Linux version of bastet (which I've seen on YouTube) had a very cute little addition that isn't in this flash port: it actively calculated the *most* desirable piece and then where you usually see the "block preview" it actually said "Won't give you this one!"

I seriously wish this existed in HATETRIS to make it even more hateful than it already is.

EDIT 2: And here is another one, "stacked odds":
http://www.rrrrthats5rs.com/games/stacked-odds/
This one seems to be damn hard like HATETRIS is, got 1 line on it. But the controls are stiff and the playing field is not the right size.

I still like HATETRIS the best because it has no gravity and it's deterministic (unlike these) so it's basically a puzzle game with nothing left to chance.

tyteen4a03 · Post by **tyteen4a03** » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:38 am

With the flash version I managed to get as far as 7 lines. With Stacked Odds I managed to eliminate 2 lines before giving up.

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:22 am

Got 3 lines in Stacked Odds! It does seem a bit easier than HATETRIS mainly because its algorithm seems a bit easier to fool. (Stacked Odds does not let you fill the deepest hole, HATETRIS tries to deny you *any* lines)

DEEMAN223344 · Post by **DEEMAN223344** » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:09 pm

I haven't played this yet, but after seeing this topic, i certainly had a dream about it.
I don't think the real thing will be as easy.

|Cookie| · Post by **|Cookie|** » Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:27 pm

Muzozavr wrote:Got 3 lines in Stacked Odds! It does seem a bit easier than HATETRIS mainly because its algorithm seems a bit easier to fool. (Stacked Odds does not let you fill the deepest hole, HATETRIS tries to deny you *any* lines)

I got 4 lines in Stacked Odds!

Master Wonder Mage · Post by **Master Wonder Mage** » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:23 pm

5 lines in stacked odds!

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:50 pm

10 lines in Stacked Odds. Although the last one would not count under HATETRIS rules, but I could've probably gotten more, I just screwed up really badly after line 8.

Guess the HATETRIS author was right about the other versions being way too easy and forgiving.

jdl · Post by **jdl** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:35 pm

I got 8 lines in stacked odds.

LittleZbot · Post by **LittleZbot** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:20 am

Am I the only one who thinks that this is easy? I got twelve lines, no problem.

Nobody · Post by **Nobody** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:07 am

Did they disappear?

LittleZbot · Post by **LittleZbot** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:14 am

...Maybe.

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:22 am

In HATETRIS itself? It doesn't really count if you did it in "Stacked Odds".

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:26 pm

5 lines in HATETRIS. Somehow I managed to perform an AI-abusing loop and would've probably gotten more had I decided to stick with the pattern instead of working logically.

Replay:

AAA2 8AAA AA99 AAAA AA2A 2AA6 AAAA AAA6 6679 AAAA AE22 2E66 6666 AAAA 2226 A2AA AAA8 88BD 6669 AAA2 2222 AAAA AA2A AAAA AAAA A55D AAAA A22A AAAA AA22 2576 AAAA 8888 8AAA AAA5 EAAA AAA9 D9A9 AAAA A8AA AAAA 9D5A AAAA B69A AAA8 8A8A AAAA 088A AAAA A3EA A9AA A276 5A6A AA7A 6AAA A88A AAAA 222A 2AAA A756 AAAA DA6A AAEA AAAE A228 AAA8 88BD 555F C800 0AAA A756 AAAA DA6A A8E6 AAA8 2AAF AABA AAA2 60AA A579 DB29 7CC0 003A A699 356A 9B6A A8CE 62A2 AA99 D6A9 E6A8 DAA0 A237 2576 A

EDIT: 8 LINES!!! This is me trying to stick with the pattern and forgetting any and all Tetris logic. Though at the end the pattern bit me in the back, for it was too high to continue.

Replay:

A88A AAAA AAA6 9AAA 8AAA 2A69 2AAA AAA9 999A A9D9 AAAE 2A65 9D9A AAAA 8A8A 8AAA AAB6 7AAA AAAA 2222 AAAA AAB5 99AA AAAA 2AAA AAAA 882D 6955 9AA8 6AAD AAAA AA22 AAAA AAA2 222A AAAA B6A6 AAAA AA55 D6AA AAB6 9AAA AA2A AAAA A222 AAAA A888 A2AA AAD9 99AA AAA7 6AAA A8AA AAAA 2A2A AAA8 888A AAAE 6666 AAAD A6AA A2AA AAA2 22AA AA2F A6AA 8888 8AAA D56A AAAD A6AA A8AA AA22 2AAA B55A AA79 AAA2 2222 AB55 AAA9 DAA8 AAAA 22AA 8882 AAD5 6AAD 6AA2 AA82 2AAF AA00 AAB5 5AA7 6A8A A02A B00F 7AA

LittleZbot · Post by **LittleZbot** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:11 pm

Muzozavr wrote:In HATETRIS itself? It doesn't really count if you did it in "Stacked Odds".

Yes, in Hatetris