Future Plans

jcvalcar2 · Post by **jcvalcar2** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:26 pm

Now that you have released WA is there any plans for upgrades in RTW with the new items? I would love a chance to make some levels with a few of these new items.

Especially the little stinkers, fireplants and the magic gloves, just to name a few

mqdar · Post by **mqdar** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:19 am

I called an idea "teleporter boxes".

bpurcell · Post by **bpurcell** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:44 pm

So this would be similar to how Valve updated Half Life 1 with the new Source engine of Half Life 2? I'm not sure a lot of the games would be easily transferable. Maybe once Patrick releases a level editor (if that's in the plans), the Wonderland community could get busy updating the levels.

Robbie · Post by **Robbie** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:11 am

Considering the time & effort that has (probably

) gone into the game engine/editor, I'd wager that further development will be done in terms of features, graphics, gameplay etc etc & that at some time a new game/s will be produced whether it be a new Wonderland Adventure or something different (maybe a new world

/new characters

) using the updated engine.

While we'd all like to see a level editor, I'd imagine we'll see further development & games which would be preferable & maybe at some point down the track an editor in some form. Maybe we'll see a few games with progressive development at the $19.95 price ticket, then an editor release at the $35 level (I recall the last one being about that?), a few more games, another editor release etc... that would be nice!

And from a MS perspective, why give the cow away just yet when it's making $?

Robbie

PS just entering the Forrest area with 68 stars - enjoying the game... a little slower than most.

Post by **Midnight Synergy** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:25 am

I really don't know myself what lies ahead... right now I'm still working on WA issues, such as distribution, and a bug-fixing update that should be out later this week.

I hope to have an editor out in the future, but how exactly that will take shape I don't know.

(it certainly wouldn't be a $35 product though, remember that RTWP actually contains "three" games, the original RTW+Editor (which was $19.95) plus the new Deluxe level set and features + the new Platinum level set and features)

mqdar · Post by **mqdar** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:45 am

Midnight Synergy wrote: I hope to have an editor out in the future, but how exactly that will take shape I don't know.

Wouldn't the editor be really complex?
On the midnight synergy site, there was a screenshot of the level editor.
Doesn't that mean that it has been made?

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:09 am

Darshan, you probably didn't read what MS said about the reasonings to not to publish an editor: it's too hard to use. Yeah, it's more like a development tool.

jcvalcar2 · Post by **jcvalcar2** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:21 pm

Thanks Patrick
I'm really enjoying the new game and look forward to seeing what you have in store for us.

Post by **Midnight Synergy** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:07 pm

Muzozavr wrote:Darshan, you probably didn't read what MS said about the reasonings to not to publish an editor: it's too hard to use. Yeah, it's more like a development tool.

yea, right now it's actually three different tools, none of which with a good user interface, and lots and lots of "looking up values in tables of numbers". Not fun or intuitive - and this will need some time to re-work.

dlcs18 · Post by **dlcs18** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:29 pm

Yeah Well, Release it anyway.

PS: Kidding!

loof101 · Post by **loof101** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:19 pm

Couldn't you mail it to people who really, really, really want to make Wonderland Adventures Levels?

That would include me

John925 · Post by **John925** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:16 pm

I know all of that weird script junk!

If you sent it to Loof101 make sure to send it to me too!

dlcs18 · Post by **dlcs18** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:21 pm

and me! I know a tiny bit of BASIC!

John925 · Post by **John925** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:53 pm

You know a little Beginner's All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code.

dlcs18 · Post by **dlcs18** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 11:04 pm

John925 wrote:You know a little Beginner's All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code.

Uhh, Yeh!
I know the PRINT command and the WAIT command, and that's it.

mqdar · Post by **mqdar** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 11:36 pm

Midnight Synergy wrote:
Muzozavr wrote:Darshan, you probably didn't read what MS said about the reasonings to not to publish an editor: it's too hard to use. Yeah, it's more like a development tool.
yea, right now it's actually three different tools, none of which with a good user interface, and lots and lots of "looking up values in tables of numbers". Not fun or intuitive - and this will need some time to re-work.

Do you mean that only the coders (like MS) would use it?

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:54 am

Do you mean that only the coders (like MS) would use it?

I think that you need to change "would" to "could".

mqdar · Post by **mqdar** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:24 am

Muzozavr wrote:
Do you mean that only the coders (like MS) would use it?
I think that you need to change "would" to "could".

Oh! You mean only the coders can use it?

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:55 am

At least I think MS means that it's too hard for non-coders.

John925 · Post by **John925** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:11 pm

Good thing I'm a coder!

Blast!10 · Post by **Blast!10** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:24 pm

One programming language for each grade!
1st grade: HTML
2nd grade: JavaScript
3rd grade: Visual Basic
4th grade: C#

John925 · Post by **John925** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:46 am

Blast!10 wrote:One programming language for each grade!
1st grade: HTML
2nd grade: JavaScript
3rd grade: Visual Basic
4th grade: C#

HTML is markup.

HyperText Markup Language

TheoX · Post by **TheoX** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:22 am

Blast!10 wrote:One programming language for each grade!
1st grade: HTML
2nd grade: JavaScript
3rd grade: Visual Basic
4th grade: C#

Heh... if I was a gradeschooler I wouldn't be able to understand that stuff very well... can any first grader learn HTML?

John925 · Post by **John925** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:27 am

I did! Well, sort of... I got a JAVA book and learned the basic syntax. In second grade I found w3cschools.com.

I'm currently programming in JAVA now and doing weird web-stuff with XHTML, JAVA, JavaScript, PHP+MySQL, and I used to put Vitalize! in. I can't now because I'm waiting for the new version.

loof101 · Post by **loof101** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:03 am

I'm WaItInG...

MS, I was serious about the mail thing. I can't think of any Platinum level ideas, I'm stuck in WA, and I'm bored out of my skull.
Please? PLEASE? PLEEEEASE!

John925 · Post by **John925** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:06 am

loof101 wrote:I'm WaItInG...
MS, I was serious about the mail thing. I can't think of any Platinum level ideas, I'm stuck in WA, and I'm bored out of my skull.
Please? PLEASE? PLEEEEASE!

Where are you stuck? I can recommend easy levels and strategies so you won't be stuck.

loof101 · Post by **loof101** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:07 am

John925 wrote:
loof101 wrote:I'm WaItInG...
MS, I was serious about the mail thing. I can't think of any Platinum level ideas, I'm stuck in WA, and I'm bored out of my skull.
Please? PLEASE? PLEEEEASE!
Where are you stuck? I can recommend easy levels and strategies so you won't be stuck.

In The Pyramid. Can you Pm me ASAP please?

John925 · Post by **John925** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:55 am

Wait, which side, or the questions?

Post by **Midnight Synergy** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:54 am

loof101 wrote:I'm WaItInG...
MS, I was serious about the mail thing. I can't think of any Platinum level ideas, I'm stuck in WA, and I'm bored out of my skull.
Please? PLEASE? PLEEEEASE!

Sorry, as I said, the editor is in no shape to be sent out.

dlcs18 · Post by **dlcs18** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:11 am

Midnight Synergy wrote:
loof101 wrote:I'm WaItInG...
MS, I was serious about the mail thing. I can't think of any Platinum level ideas, I'm stuck in WA, and I'm bored out of my skull.
Please? PLEASE? PLEEEEASE!
Sorry, as I said, the editor is in no shape to be sent out.

Yeah, cuz if he released it now. We wouldn't just be making levels... We'd be making our own Wonderland Adventures game!